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Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by newcovenant
Wow could your post be any more wrong if you tried.You really have to stay off the left wing sites when getting your information.Had nothing to do with the pastor in fact the movie excuse is rather ify but that was the original intent of the gathering.And now for Romney ive been all over the net hate to tell you alot of people think Romney is right First this isnt the first attack on that consulate.Yet only after someone is killed did he send marines. Second the state department was aware of this threat even before it occured but no safety precautions were taken only an apology was released from the embassy which later Obama denied they made.And if he had developed a middle eastern policy and actually tried to help syrians after form there new government then Al Qaeda wouldn't have been able to move back into .
So your damn right Obama screwed up on his foreign policy here.In factive supported him in the past it has ended now he needs to go.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
There's NO excuse for the attacks. But when the "filmmaker" knowingly provokes people, as Tw0Sides said, "It's blowback". Sure, we can legally say just about whatever we want, but if you tell a man that his wife is a dirty whore, knowing how he will react, you kinda deserve what you get, even though you were legally in the right.
See, here you make a fatal mistake. Americans (and American doesn't mean which country you happen to be residing in, but your heart and spirit. It involves freedom, liberty, American "values," etc.) don't like the idea of one of their own being "silenced." That belief is in the heart of any one who is an American, as I used it. "Silencing," belongs in the Communist world, or the Islamic, not in a free world, or in America.
Instead of being soundly trounced and silenced for unAmerican proselytizing, and warmongering, he still operates a church, doesn't pay taxes and gained a bunch of supporters from the GOP.
We've heard about Dearbornistan. We've seen Islamic enclaves created and separating from the country there in all over Europe. We know that Islam doesn't want to be melted into the American culture, it wants, eventually, to control it.
America was founded on the premise of Religions Freedom. We pride ourselves on being the best of people from all over the world, a melting pot of ideas and religions making it work.
Originally posted by dragonridr
And now for Romney ive been all over the net hate to tell you alot of people think Romney is right
Yes, Romney’s criticism last night was tough, but the embassy’s statement was indefensible. If that wasn’t obvious enough, the White House made it obvious by refusing to defend it. Was Romney supposed to get up this morning and back off or apologize for his criticism after the White House itself implicitly criticized the release? What is clearly going on here is that, as far as the press is concerned, anything Romney does is wrong.
GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney told it like it is regarding the demonstrations and protests in Egypt by saying that President Barack Obama had an apologetic tone when making statements about the Middle East unrest. He portrayed the president as being weak on foreign policy in general in the face of the uprisings. (Emphasis added)
MSM was furious with Mitt Romney today after he issued a strongly-worded condemnation of the state department's initial apology and today criticized the Obama administration for attempting to placate our attackers. Romney didn't apologize. He condemned. More importantly, he led. It was a move that shamed President Obama by comparison.
"I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi," Romney said in a spot-on response. "It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks." (Emphasis added)
Conservative foreign policy hawks, outraged at the media’s circle-the-wagons reaction to the attacks on two embassies, are speaking out in defense of Mitt Romney.
Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton tells Right Turn:”The perception of American weakness that provided the foundation for these attacks is largely because of Obama administration mistakes and lack of resolve. A repetition of 1979 in Tehran is nor fetched, especially given the weakness of Obama’s statement this morning.” He dismisses the media storyline as pure boosterism: “The press criticism of Romney’s statement is so clearly at the administration’s behest that they are giving lapdogs a bad name.”
This is Mitt Romney immediately after giving his poorly thought out statement to the press blaming the Obama administration for “sympathiz(ing) with those who waged the attacks.” Notice anything odd about him? Does that look like a man who just expressed disgust at the loss of American lives in Libya? Does he look disturbed that the President of the United States is supposedly taking the side of the Libyan rioters that killed them? Is that the face of a man who feels the weight of the responsibility of leadership in times of crises?
Not even a little.
This is the smile of a man who thinks he just landed a roundhouse in a political boxing match. This is the smile of a man who is using the death of Americans to score cheap political points. This is the smile of a man who couldn’t keep a smirk off his face long enough to be in private over his supposed “victory” that has turned into a debacle. This is the smile of a man who, literally, cares more about his campaign than the death of an American ambassador and several of his staff.
It’s one thing for the left to say that Mitt Romney is cold and indifferent to other people’s suffering. It’s quite another to see him smiling over how useful the deaths of others has been to him. This is not the face of the leader of a nation, this is the face of a sociopath, incapable of empathy or compassion. This is the real Mitt Romney and it’s a picture that every person in the country should see.
Here is a partial timeline of events. All times are Eastern Standard Time (EST), 6 hours earlier than Cairo time.
5:50AM - Cairo Embassy publishes a statement on its website which rejects those who "abuse" free speech. This is a reference to an anti-Islam film, portions of which have been broadcast on TV in Arabic. The entire speech is tweeted out line by line on the Embassy account.
1:42PM - The Associated Press tweets word of an attack on the Cairo Embassy. The US flag is pulled down and replaced with a black Islamic flag.
5:28PM - Cairo Embassy tweets out three defensive comments, the last of which doubles down on the initial statement. It reads "3) Sorry, but neither breaches of our compound or angry messages will dissuade us from defending freedom of speech AND criticizing bigotry." To this point there has been no comment, tweet, or statement defending free speech, only the statement/tweet criticizing those who abuse it.
7:00-7:20PM - The Embassy puts out another tweet tripling down on their initial statement. "This morning's condemnation (issued before the protests began) still stands. As does our condemnation of unjustified breach of the Embassy." This tweet is later deleted.
8:06PM - AP reports an attack on the US Embassy in Benghazi, Libya has resulted in one death and one injury.
10:09PM - The Romney camp sends out a brief statement which reads, "I'm outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It's disgraceful that the Obama Administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks." The statement is embargoed until midnight.
10:10PM - Politico reports an unnamed Obama administration official is disavowing the statement posted on the US Embassy website, claiming it was unauthorized. No explanation is offered why the embassy was still pushing it as of 7PM.
~10:25PM - The Romney camp sends out another email ending the embargo on its statement.
10:38-10:56PM - On the State Dept. Twitter feed, Hillary condemns the attack in Libya and confirms the death of an unnamed "officer" in Libya. One of the final tweets of the night reads "#SecClinton on the attack in #Libya: Let me be clear -- there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind." However, two other tweets mixed in with her reaction to Libya reaffirm a commitment to religious tolerance and denouncing "any intentional effort to denigrate the beliefs of others."
11:40PM-11:50PM - The Cairo Embassy deletes six tweets, including the one about "abuse" of free speech, one about hurting Muslims feelings, and the one tripling down on the initial statement (7:00PM). They do not delete two unobjectionable tweets which were at the heart of the morning press release. The latter of these echoes Hillary's statement about religious tolerance. The Embassy has effectively scrubbed the offending statements while retaining a portion which the Secretary has embraced.
Timeline: Obama Admin Took 16 Hours to Disavow Embassy Apology