posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:01 PM
Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Ever hear of a second chance?
I stole as a youth and was violent as an adult...I learned,why can't others.
Intolerance is a weak argument to me based on experience alone.
Thankfully....I came upon good people (indirectly even) who taught me better.
There is other things to look at as well....what was their home life?
People behave based on the experiences they have....not everyone has the same experiences.
If they did....they would just be called a sheep,especially on ats.
Variety is the spice of life and tolerance and forgiveness isn't a bad thing.
edit on 11-9-2012 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)
I think we're missing the most important factor in this. In America, we live in a society where second chances and tolerance for petty crime is just a
part of the way of things. It's ingrained and core to life here. Like it or don't, there it is.
In Saudi Arabia, there IS no such tolerance and I understand that is something taught from the earliest age on forward. It's a radically different
society..and my note to learn from them did note I would never suggest we copy what they have. However, having said that, if one commits a crime
punishable by death, KNOWS what that crime and punishment was before committing it, then does it anyway and gets busted....I really can't find
sympathy for them. They paid their money and they took their chances.....it came up short and so did these two, by about one head's height each.
(You might say I'd make Attila the Hun blush with regard to my feelings on crime and punishment).
I found this that I figured everyone may find interesting.. It's the U.S. State Departments official information and warnings on travel to and within
Persons violating Saudi Arabian laws, even unknowingly, may be expelled, arrested, imprisoned, or even executed. Suspects may be detained without
charges or legal counsel, and with limited consular access, for months during the investigative stage of criminal cases Penalties for the import,
manufacture, possession, and consumption of alcohol or illegal drugs in Saudi Arabia are severe. Convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences,
heavy fines, public floggings, and/or deportation. The penalty for drug trafficking in Saudi Arabia is death. Saudi officials make no exceptions.
Obviously, not the top spot for Spring Breakers anywhere.....to be overly generous about it.
Saudi authorities do not permit criticism of Islam or the royal family. The government prohibits the public practice of religions other than
Islam. Non-Muslims suspected of violating these restrictions have been jailed. Homosexual activity and adultery are considered to be criminal offenses
and those convicted may be sentenced to lashing, prison, or death.
Other things are similarly....handled..and no, I absolutely don't agree with everything they do and why I chose my words about learning from but not
It seems, they are quite serious in Saudi Arabia about doing things their way and really don't care what anyone, anywhere thinks about it....this part
DID surprise me.
A married woman should be aware that she must have her husband's permission for her and their children to depart Saudi Arabia. This is true even
if the woman and/or her children are U.S. citizens and even if her husband does not have Saudi nationality. The U.S. Embassy can intercede with the
Saudi government to request exit visas for adult U.S. women, but there is no guarantee that visas will be issued, and obtaining an exit visa without
the male guardian’s consent will take many months, if it can be obtained at
Quite a place! When I've spent my whole life in a place where petty crime is so common and so much a part of the scenery as to require locks on
EVERYTHING..even in ones own fenced and locked yards....It's simply a desire to be open to other approaches that may work. I'd never suggest they
don't carry it a bit too far in some areas, to my Western ways of thinking of it.
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