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Topic started on 11-9-2012 @ 12:47 PM by beezzer


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:02 PM by beezzer
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Why is it that both parties manipulate the economy and social attitudes JUST for a few fleeting year of power?

What happened to true leadership?


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:06 PM by benrl
Originally posted by beezzer
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Why is it that both parties manipulate the economy and social attitudes JUST for a few fleeting year of power?

What happened to true leadership?


Its a long complex issue Beezzer, its no longer become about fixing anything, their money is in prolonging the problem not in solutions.

I like to think there is no great conspiracy, what you see is simply the result of human greed and shortsightedness, we are looking at problems in 4 year chunks.

What is needed is leadership that sees not in 4 year terms but in decades, the solutions to this problem will take decades.

Its akin to planting an perennial plant when a red wood is what is needed, its all band aids.

The end result is what we see now.


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:26 PM by beezzer
Originally posted by TheGreatDivider
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Beezzer 2016!!!!



good lord NO!

(I'm too damned evil)

But we need a "beezzer-ish" candidate.


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:26 PM by anon72
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I concur. Beezer and S. Palin for my ticket.

I am tired of the Professional.Politician


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:27 PM by ErEhWoN
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What happened to true leadership?


It was sold to the highest bidder.



reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:35 PM by beezzer
Originally posted by anon72
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I concur. Beezer and S. Palin for my ticket.

I am tired of the Professional.Politician


While I too am tired of the "Political Politician" for 2016, we should start looking NOW!


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 01:44 PM by okrian
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It's comments like "what America used to be about" that are often red flags and/or code for something really creepy. Exactly what did America used to be about? For who? Because until really recently it wasn't really good for anyone except white males. And even then, through the ages, certain white males have also been discriminated against (by other white males... not being the right kind of white - Irish, religious battling, not owning property, slave ownership, etc.).

Again, a few lines later you rephrase this as "the values that made America great". Again, this sounds really dangerous. What values? It can't be hard work, because the "hard work gets the American dream" mantra has long been proven to be a complete farce. The top doesn't want anyone else up there. If anyone who frequents this site knows anything, it's that the system is designed to keep you down (and relatively uneducated).

I concur that we need a leader that sees in the long term. Sadly, it won't happen. The people of this era are far too rooted in short-attention-span. The solutions that we need will take far too long to both implement and succeed.

And please, there are no progressives in either party, by any worldly sense anyway.
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