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reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 06:40 PM by GoOfYFoOt
Originally posted by benrl
reply to post by pointr97


So let me get this straight, you have already determined this is a possession, and thus all logical explanations are to be thrown out the window...

Thanks for clarifying that, I see now that logic and reason need not apply here, don't even know why I bothered to post.

First, let me say that I have always respected your opinion, but...
contrary to popular belief, life is not always, 100% about logic and reason.
There are always situations that absolutely defy logic. Science deals with them daily. Reason is but a tool. One that is developed over time, through wisdom and experience. But, without logic, reason is simply a guess, and no more absolute than any other hypothesis offered up in this thread.
If you always sided with basic logic and reason, you would be ignorant. Because, our entire life is spent, constantly revisiting and revising our views of reality. So with all due respect, open your mind, before your mouth. Or, in this case, before you assume, conclude, and deny possibilities.


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 07:10 PM by tinfoilman
reply to post by JohnPhoenix


Occam's razor doesn't provide a plausible theory. It's a tool to help you choose between multiple plausible theories. It says usually your safest bet is to go with the simplest theory that explains the evidence. Not that it's the only theory.

Sure maybe he was possessed. Maybe he was even possessed by the spirit of a pink unicorn from the Andromeda galaxy. Heck I don't know.

But without doing further testing to find additional evidence that could debunk the theory that he faked it, like I don't know, finding pink unicorn ectoplasm all over the floor, there's no reason to complicate matters.

The theory that he faked it explains everything I see in this video. Until someone actually does go to the store and investigates it and finds evidence that can't be explained by the controversial, he faked it theory, I think that's as far as we can go.

See, Occam's razor actually creates more scientific inquiry. Without it, we'd all just chock this video up to pink unicorn possession and then we'd all go home not knowing the truth. But now, thanks to Occam's razor, people like you may actually investigate the story even further to try and prove it's not fake.

See, Occam's razor is working.



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reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 07:22 PM by WiindWalker
Originally posted by benrl
reply to post by Ben81


I see a man having an epileptic fit...

An epileptic seizure, occasionally referred to as a fit, is defined as a transient symptom of "abnormal excessive or synchronous neuronal activity in the brain".[1] The outward effect can be as dramatic as a wild thrashing movement (tonic-clonic seizure) or as mild as a brief loss of awareness (absence seizure). It can manifest as an alteration in mental state, tonic or clonic movements


But by all means lets go back to the age where people with brain injuries where demonized and burned at the stake...
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My brother has epilepsy, and I can tell you now this is no seizure. Seizure patients usually fall straight to the floor, unable to move at all, and then they eventually black out after seconds. This dude obviously knew he was in front of a camera.


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 07:25 PM by kx12x
reply to post by strings0305


Agreed. It looks fake. Also, look at the bottom left of the screen closely, Is that his hand pulling the lines as the stuff falls? It seems to match the timing.


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 08:19 PM by MeesterB
Totally disregarding the debunking,



So dont be caught by the tricksters know that YOU ARE ALIVE and you are stronger then these entities


That is terrible advice. No matter what religious view of "demons" you look at, they all share similar characteristics.
Evil. Liars. Ethereal. Malicious. Controlling. Selfish.

Christians believe that demons are fallen angels. Most people can't stop looking at porn.
The only victory you can have over demons is through Jesus, and it's free.

Hebrews 1:10-14


“You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of your hands; they will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment, like a robe you will roll them up, like a garment they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will have no end.” And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”? 14Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?


From Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

The most exalted angels are but ministering spirits, mere servants of Christ, to execute his commands. The saints, at present, are heirs, not yet come into possession. The angels minister to them in opposing the malice and power of evil spirits, in protecting and keeping their bodies, instructing and comforting their souls, under Christ and the Holy Ghost. Angels shall gather all the saints together at the last day, when all whose hearts and hopes are set upon perishing treasures and fading glories, will be driven from Christ's presence into everlasting misery.

www.christnotes.org...


reply posted on 11-9-2012 @ 08:38 PM by tinfoilman
reply to post by Malcher


I don't know. I don't see why you would need two different cameras. Just two separate pieces of footage. One of which may even be a copy of the first. Footage of the guy laying there. And footage of the guy getting up to create the reflection. Or whatever the reflection was supposed to be. That's probably a mistake actually that they just forgot to remove.

Probably all came from the same camera. Guy gets up. They go and edit it and stretch the frames of the guy laying there over the footage of him getting up. Ala, stuck second, cause they copied that footage over so it looks like he's still laying there.
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