Cnn/Orc Poll: Unskewed...Romney Up 8

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posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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If you can't acertain the facts perceptively, attack the poster. I can't attack your IGNORANCE or BH. Proceed on your way to relegated DENIAL of FACTS. Post on this thread again and your stupidity will be wiped out.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by RELDDIR
READ THE WHOLE OP.


Oh Please...I did! What is hillarious is this bit from your OP article...


Unskewing this data to make up for the likely 25 percent under-sampling of independent voters shows the results are quite different. With the weightings of independents, Democrats and Republicans conducted by the Rasmussen numbers, this poll's data would indicate a Romney lead over Obama of 53 percent to 45 percent.


Hmm...Okay...Then the farthest right leaning pollster in the business, one which has been hammered for using insanely GOP bias weightings...is the new standard? OK..let's check out Rasmussen's latest polls!

TUESDAY, Sept. 11th
General Election: Romney vs. Obama
Rasmussen Reports
Obama 48, Romney 45
Obama +3

What does that tell you when the most Romney friendly poll...AND THE ONE YOUR ARTICLE LOOKED TO USE TO MAKE IT'S "reality is not reality" argument...shows Obama ahead?

Or how about EVERY other poll???
www.realclearpolitics.com...

Why do I always imagine folks get a little twing of pain in their frontal lobe when they work this hard to deny reality.
edit on 11-9-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
If you can't acertain the facts perceptively, attack the poster. I can't attack your IGNORANCE or BH. Proceed on your way to relegated DENIAL of FACTS. Post on this thread again and your stupidity will be wiped out.


There hasn't been a single "FACT" posted by either you or your OP article that hasn't been thoroughly debunked by reality.

You started by claiming that the sample was nearly half of what it was.

When BH directed you to the actual survey explaining the falsehood/error...you pretended not to notice.

You went on to ape what your OP article contended...that if Rasmussen's weighting system had been used it would show Romney UP 6 points.

I pointed out that unfortunately for you and the "Examiner" Rasmussen did in fact just release a poll...and it showed OBAMA +3 over Romney. A full 9 points in the wrong direction of what you and the OP article claimed.

Your response to the onslaught of facts and reality was what?? A threat that some Mod might find facts and reality offensive content and remove my post?

If I were you I would just count your blessings that your OP wasn't moved to the Hoax forum...since it is a construction of falsehood and error and you persist in not acknowledging it.

edit on 11-9-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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Indigo 5, the examiner has this exact data in their article. Did you even bother to look?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Ah, the Examiner is at it again!


I suggest you study the Actual Poll Data (if you're into polls, that is...)



edit on 9/11/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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Did you bother to look in the examiner article I posted? It has the same data that BH was alluding to.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by RELDDIR
If you can't acertain the facts perceptively, attack the poster. I can't attack your IGNORANCE or BH. Proceed on your way to relegated DENIAL of FACTS. Post on this thread again and your stupidity will be wiped out.


There hasn't been a single "FACT" posted by either you or your OP article that hasn't been thoroughly debunked by reality.

You started by claiming that the sample was nearly half of what it was.

When BH directed you to the actual survey explaining the falsehood/error...you pretended not to notice.

You went on to ape what your OP article contended...that if Rasmussen's weighting system had been used it would show Romney UP 6 points.

I pointed out that unfortunately for you and the "Examiner" Rasmussen did in fact just release a poll...and it showed OBAMA +3 over Romney. A full 9 points in the wrong direction of what you and the OP article claimed.

Your response to the onslaught of facts and reality was what?? A threat that some Mod might find facts and reality offensive content and remove my post?

If I were you I would just count your blessings that your OP wasn't moved to the Hoax forum...since it is a construction of falsehood and error.

edit on 11-9-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Please read before you post. If not, the only HOAX is in you mind.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by RELDDIR
If you can't acertain the facts perceptively, attack the poster. I can't attack your IGNORANCE or BH. Proceed on your way to relegated DENIAL of FACTS. Post on this thread again and your stupidity will be wiped out.


There hasn't been a single "FACT" posted by either you or your OP article that hasn't been thoroughly debunked by reality.

You started by claiming that the sample was nearly half of what it was.

When BH directed you to the actual survey explaining the falsehood/error...you pretended not to notice.

You went on to ape what your OP article contended...that if Rasmussen's weighting system had been used it would show Romney UP 6 points.

I pointed out that unfortunately for you and the "Examiner" Rasmussen did in fact just release a poll...and it showed OBAMA +3 over Romney. A full 9 points in the wrong direction of what you and the OP article claimed.

Your response to the onslaught of facts and reality was what?? A threat that some Mod might find facts and reality offensive content and remove my post?

If I were you I would just count your blessings that your OP wasn't moved to the Hoax forum...since it is a construction of falsehood and error and you persist in not acknowledging it.

edit on 11-9-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
Did you bother to look in the examiner article I posted? It has the same data that BH was alluding to.


Last try here to help you...

EXAMINER


This survey's sample includes 397 registered Republicans and 441 registered Democrats.
But the survey included a total of 822 registered voters, leaving only 37 independent voters at most. The survey clearly under-sampled independent and Republican voters.


THE ACTUAL POLL


Interviews with 1,022 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC International on September 7-9, 2012. The margin of sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The sample also includes 875 interviews among registered voters (plus or minus 3.5 percentage points) and 709 interviews among likely voters


Not a "total of 822 registered voters"....A total of 1,022...875 registered voters....The Examiner changed 875 to 822 and then called that 822 the total while not counting the 709 likely voters...

EXAMINER


With the weightings of independents, Democrats and Republicans conducted by the Rasmussen numbers, this poll's data would indicate a Romney lead over Obama of 53 percent to 45 percent.


Actual Rasmussen Poll results today
OBAMA +3 ... a 9 point difference in the wrong direction than what they claim Rasmussen would show

Nothing personal...but nothing about your OP or article is living in reality.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Cnn/Orc latest polls unskewed would put romney up by 8%. From their latest polls, Independents are way undersampled, while Democrats are oversampled. And of course, Republicans are undersampled.



S&F

Of course it would….CNN obviously took Obama’s advice and skewed the poll to avoid prosecution (unlike Gallup)


Polls don’t matter….Obama is his own worst enemy. If this video would go viral Obama wouldn’t stand a chance this November.




posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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You still don't get it. Read the WHOLE ARTICLE and the LINK to the CNN/ORC INTERNATIONAL poll. I'm tired of responding to you.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by RELDDIR
Did you bother to look in the examiner article I posted? It has the same data that BH was alluding to.


Last try here to help you...

EXAMINER


This survey's sample includes 397 registered Republicans and 441 registered Democrats.
But the survey included a total of 822 registered voters, leaving only 37 independent voters at most. The survey clearly under-sampled independent and Republican voters.


THE ACTUAL POLL


Interviews with 1,022 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC International on September 7-9, 2012. The margin of sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
The sample also includes 875 interviews among registered voters (plus or minus 3.5 percentage points) and 709 interviews among likely voters


Not a "total of 822 registered voters"....A total of 1,022...875 registered voters....The Examiner changed 875 to 822 and then called that 822 the total while not counting the 709 likely voters...

EXAMINER


With the weightings of independents, Democrats and Republicans conducted by the Rasmussen numbers, this poll's data would indicate a Romney lead over Obama of 53 percent to 45 percent.


Actual Rasmussen Poll results today
OBAMA +3 ... a 9 point difference in the wrong direction than what they claim Rasmussen would show

Nothing personal...but nothing about your OP or article is living in reality.



posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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reply to post by Indigo5
 


I'm through replying to your posts. One word of advice, make sure you check the CORRECT BOX next to Obama in November. It's pityful to have have to answer your posts so many times.



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 03:10 AM
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Here you go PARTISAN SHEEPLES:

CNN: Obama 52% Romney 46%, but...
A new CNN poll of likely voters confirms a Barack Obama convention bounce, as he now leads Mitt Romney, 52%-46%.

But here's a very curious internal.

Romney leads among independents, 54%-40%. That's a blowout number. Both candidates get 96%-97% of their respective parties, so this means that this sample must have leaned Democratic big-time.

And of course, CNN didn't release the sampling breakdown.

There's no doubt Obama got a convention bounce, but the independent number indicates a pretty severe oversample among Democrats in this poll.

Source:
gop12.thehill.com...

**Critical Thinking**



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 03:43 AM
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AGAIN:
"And of course, CNN didn't release the sampling breakdown."
Source:
gop12.thehill.com...



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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Indigo5, in case you're still reading this thread. New Rasmussen polls have Romney and Obama are in a dead heat.

Romney = 45%
Obama = 46%

No Leaners
Romney = 48%
Obama = 47%

Daily Presidential Tracking Polls in Politics from Rasmussen Reports
www.rasmussenreports.com...



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
AGAIN:
"And of course, CNN didn't release the sampling breakdown."
Source:
gop12.thehill.com...


Always, always, always stack the polls with democrats.

Maybe nobody will notice?



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Yup...I see this race being dead heat at the moment.
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
Yup...I see this race being dead heat at the moment.
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 




Check Rasmussen tomorrow.

This Obama foreign policy in Egypy and Libya has blown up on all of the networks.

MSNBC and CNN are trying hard to cover for Obama but it's not working.

The photo of our dead State department official just hit the Drudge Report.

Apparently, he died from smoke inhalation.

Libya assassination trumps Obama political BS.



posted on Sep, 13 2012 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by RELDDIR
Yup...I see this race being dead heat at the moment.
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 




Check Rasmussen tomorrow.

This Obama foreign policy in Egypy and Libya has blown up on all of the networks.

MSNBC and CNN are trying hard to cover for Obama but it's not working.

The photo of our dead State department official just hit the Drudge Report.

Apparently, he died from smoke inhalation.

Libya assassination trumps Obama political BS.





Guaranteed most MSM sources spin this to make Romney look bad. You will see.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 08:21 AM
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BREAKING: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%
National President
Rasmussen Reports

Obama (D) 45
Romney (R) 48
Romney (R) +3.

Will Update Soon...



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
BREAKING: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%
National President
Rasmussen Reports

Obama (D) 45
Romney (R) 48
Romney (R) +3.

Will Update Soon...


It's over.

Failed Economic Policies + Failed Foreign Policies = President Mitt Romney

---------
Obama should start looking for an exit and start thinking about his legacy.
edit on 14-9-2012 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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He'll have to pardon his criminal pals before he goes as well.



posted on Sep, 14 2012 @ 09:15 AM
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Excerpts from Rasmussen Reports Daily Presidential Tracking Poll in Politics
Friday, September 14, 2012

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 45% of the vote. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided."

"In Ohio Obama leads by a point. In Florida, the president is up two. Romney has edged back into the lead in Missouri and now earns 51% of the vote in North Carolina."

www.rasmussenreports.com...

**1st Presidential Debate: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 6:00pm–7:30pm MST**





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