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Originally posted by Miri08
reply to post by adjensen
I have nothing against Christians or against Judaism in general.
I'm trying to understand the mindset of those people when it comes to god killing people and that's all.
Originally posted by Miri08
I am only interested in how literal readings of the bible and what the bible says on god killings correlate. I can not make this any plainer.
How many people though do you think really understand the Bible.
Lots of interpretations are based off another's, not real personal if you ask me.
What I've learned from the Bible is nothing I would learn at church. I learned everything by reading the Bible in a different light, the one Jesus told us about.
When I go to church they often demonize and pervert the scriptures. It's very telling as the roman empire continues to this day and many theologians don't even realize it!
For instance, Israel is a literal place but the Bible has the Word and each word has multi layers of truth, and so does the bible. In the instance for Israel, the other meaning is us. Israel represents gods children of all nations not just one. Who so ever seeks and understand the light of the word understands that Israel in and of itself is not the " chosen people". We are.
God didn't kill people though, man did and continues to do so in the name of God.
It all boils down to understanding the story of mankind represented in all expressions but especially in the Bible. It's important to understand who we are and where we are going.
Originally posted by Miri08
reply to post by n00bUK
Yes, very true. But my point is, using the dictators as a reference we see the scope of the biblical god's kills, if one takes the bible literally, if these killings are righteous and the will of the biblical god, why aren't they celebrated? Why don't sermons emphasize just how many people the literal biblical god has killed if it's A-Okay?
Originally posted by Miri08
Firstly, I did a search and found older threads on deaths attributed to the Biblical god and also found a thread or two on dictators but couldn't find one on a side by side comparison.
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And now a conservative estimate for the biblical god, drum-roll please!
2,270,365+
So if we don't take into account the killings committed in the name of god, god doesn't even get a top 5. But if you add those in, I'm sure he has a good chance for the silver.
So from a literal standpoint, Why isn't proper credit given to god on the pulpit?
If a person has blood on their hands and didn't receive a direct order from YHWH to kill then they will never, ever ascend to Heaven.
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by Miri08
But your forgetting that all the deaths directly associated with. God, are back when there were only a few million people on earth.
Unlike the dictator sheet that was all mostly modern times, with billions.
Man created religion..... Not God.
Man kills people, not God.
How many people though do you think really understand the Bible.
God didn't kill people though, man did and continues to do so in the name of God.
People are evolving and the New Testament shows us this.
Nobody has died because of religion. When people "kill in the name of religion," they're actually going against what religion teaches.
A man could claim to be killing in the name of Mickey Mouse -- but that is a bad reflection on the man, not on Mickey Mouse.
Atheist Communist regimes, meanwhile, have killed over 100 million of their own people (and that's a conservative number) in just the last 100 years.
They didn't do it in the name of atheism, precisely, but their killing is not going against what atheism teaches. Because atheism, in essence, teaches nothing. Whenever atheism has been installed as the Official State Religion, the state in question has always given itself permission to do unspeakable things. Always.
When God is not, as Dostoyevsky wrote, anything is permitted.
Link
"...secular ideologies were responsible for the murder of 100 million innocent people during the last century." Source
Atheists kill people in such vastly greater numbers than any religion EVER Source
Who tricked people into disobeying God? Satan...
Satan brought death into the world.