White House Preparing Executive Order As A Stand-In For CISPA

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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White House Preparing Executive Order As A Stand-In For CISPA


This isn't a huge surprise -- and last month we even discussed the possibility, but it sounds as though the White House has decided that, with the failure of Congress to pass a comprehensive cybersecurity bill (CISPA passed in the House, but the rather different Cybersecurity Act failed in the Senate), it is going to issue some sort of executive order to deal with "cybersecurity issues."


www.techdirt.com...


White House drafting standards to guard U.S. against cyberattack, officials say


The White House has drafted a preliminary executive order aimed at strengthening the nation’s computer systems against attack, an effort to begin to accomplish through fiat what could not be achieved through Congress.

The draft order, whose contours are being debated, would create voluntary standards to guide companies in guarding themselves against cyberattacks, according to administration officials. It would also establish a special council made up of key government agencies to identify threats that could compromise critical sectors.

White House spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden said the administration was not going to discuss details of internal deliberations, “but an Executive Order is among the things we’re considering to fulfill the president’s direction to us to do absolutely everything we can to better protect our nation against today’s cyberthreats.”


www.washingtonpost.com... -f8fe-11e1-a073-78d05495927c_print.html



So is this how they are going to take away peoples rights? Through an executive order? Other cybersecurity laws, such as SOPA, PIPA and CISPA have failed to get through, so just by pass all of that and pass an executive order. Completely disgusting, but I really don't see anyone making a stink over this....since Romney supports cybersecurity legislation.

Also, this coming to light, with the "supposed" attack on DNS provider GoDaddy by the "security leader of anonymous" screams false flag.




posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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Well this just chafes my rear! How dare they issue an Executive Order? By what right? Is there nothing we can do? Why even bother to have three branches of government?
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Exactly, and with this executive order, he may have the power to shut down major ISPs....but I know what people should do if the government shuts down the internet....




But before anyone claims this is just an attack against Obama, please note Romney also has strong beliefs in having a cybersecurity act.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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This has been in the works for a while and posted about in a few other places around here.

Other thread
Another thread

Still really crappy.

If it passes how much you wanna bet places like ATS will REALLY change if it happens?

ETA: Like maybe even vanish.
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Some executive orders are given out because the congress hasn't got the cojones to just get the job done, much of what has been happening is this. The President, or any President is often faced with issues so dire that someone has to make a decision and usually congress is given consideration to do the job first. I am not so sure that you may understand what is at risk besides the possibility of control of the Internet. You not having any Internet might be the option without any kind of cybersecurity executive order. Does anyone here realize how much money is wasted while congress dithers? Executive orders can cut through all the bull and just do something as opposed to doing nothing but talking incessantly and never accomplishing anything. Congress has become irrelavant. Their track records speaks for itself.


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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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WHAT?

You are crazy...

Like really really crazy.

Your talking about Tyranny...
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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They seem to be passing EO on a daily basis anymore, doubt MSM will even blink an eye and report on it...it's SOP these days....end run around the law.

Yeah, I think the Go daddy thing was a set up.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Cispa is being shot down by Republicans and Mitt hasn't spoke of it concretely so I researched and found this article by someone who is trying to figure out where he stands also...he believes he would go with what the majority of Repubs say....Obama is the one pushing it since 2008 (made cyber security part of his 2008 and 2012 platform)



It’s likely that candidate Romney would default to the Republican platform created at the recent convention. There isn’t much substance in this platform but there is a fair amount of condemnation. For example, the Republicans call Mr. Obama’s cybersecurity strategy, “costly and heavy handed,” and say that it will “increase the cost and size of the federal bureaucracy and harm innovation in cybersecurity.” It also claims that the President’s approach has been “overly reliant on developing defensive capabilities,” and that there is no “active deterrence protocol.” Ultimately, the Republicans recommend a policy based upon public/private security intelligence sharing similar to the privacy-challenged SECURE IT Act proposed by Senator John McCain.


www.networkworld.com...
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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It sucks...but it was expected. This President rules via executive order. I can see him working on a new draft now...he gets re-elected by executive order signed by him.


Who needs to vote, or have any checks and balances in government...we have Obama and his almighty executive order pen.

Scary isn't it.....

Des



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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I might be crazy, but maybe you could tell me what the risks are for cyberspace? What do you think they are worried about happening? What could happen if steps aren't taken to try and make cypberspace more secure? You do understand that our grid is already compromised by two other countries precisely because there was not any cybersecurity and that the current smartgrid is easily hacked. SO you like your lights to keep on shining don;t you? I mean you like your computer to turn on don't you? All of that comes with a price. The picture of what could happen and what already has happened is so much more vast that if what they are worried about does end up happening you will be begging them to just fix it anyway they can. Unfortunately, it would take more time than anyone has the patience for. I would be much more worried about the NDAA if I were you.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Sorry, but I find it fishy that you are going to bypass the house and the senate and just sign some executive order....and your post implies that those who are against this do not feel that safeguards are needed, which is incorrect. (not trying to attack, but that is how I interpret your post) Also, it would be nice to know how this is going to be worded, what powers will this executive order contain?


I would be much more worried about the NDAA if I were you.


I really don't know how to take that one.....lol Though I guess if they start using that one on conservative minded folk, I guess some of us will be getting a vacation.
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by bwcawaterbear
I might be crazy, but maybe you could tell me what the risks are for cyberspace? What do you think they are worried about happening? What could happen if steps aren't taken to try and make cypberspace more secure? You do understand that our grid is already compromised by two other countries precisely because there was not any cybersecurity and that the current smartgrid is easily hacked. SO you like your lights to keep on shining don;t you? I mean you like your computer to turn on don't you? All of that comes with a price. The picture of what could happen and what already has happened is so much more vast that if what they are worried about does end up happening you will be begging them to just fix it anyway they can. Unfortunately, it would take more time than anyone has the patience for. I would be much more worried about the NDAA if I were you.


What if the cybersecurity EO is just the start, like the patriot act, that lead to the NDAA.

Say 5 years down the line the cybersecurity EO turns into BWCAWATERBEAR and THESUNGOD and this person that person and the other person can't have the internet because they once questioned the government on ATS?

Baby steps.

Now as for security, we aren't the only country like this. EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has this problem. It's matter of getting rid of these smart grids in favor of hard lines. Personal opinion aka disconnect the power plants from the internet, stop automating the control and pay a couple people to sit and monitor each station, instead of monitoring it on the net.

Two birds one stone. Unemployment and grid security.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Something does need to be done though. As the above poster mentioned, we do have some serious vulnerabilities that need to be addressed. It would be nicer though to have it passed as a public bill.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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I hope the POTUS signs it and then shuts the internet down!

Then the arm chair commandos and patriots will have to either find a new hobby or walk the walk.

Slaves wake up!



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Sorry, but the fear-mongering is getting a little old.


"What do you think they are worried about happening?"

**I think that's pretty clear. They don't like people getting around the information stranglehold they have on the media:
Jay Rockefeller: "Internet should have never existed" (YouTube vid)


Worried that the power grid will go down due to cyberattack? Then don't freaking hook it up to the internet.

Before the internet was "invented", we were able to deliver electricity to homes and businesses quite effectively and securely, thank you. No fear required.
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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Amen to that. I hope one day it does go dark and all the armchair warriors become street warriors, but I'll still fight to keep my rights til then.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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Well, I actually miss the days of no internet and cell phones
back when cable tv was just a cool no commercial idea



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
Well, I actually miss the days of no internet and cell phones
back when cable tv was just a cool no commercial idea


I gave you a star for that post. But, it's like saying I really like black and white cartoons....going back, it just ain't gonna happen. World finances are based on internet traffic now......it's the new nightmare we have to live with.

Des



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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thank you, I know it is just a memory now,, shame.. but oh well
Have a great week?
Just imagine if they did have that power,, and shut down the net.. wow.. the chaos that would begin.. teenagers would not know what to do... almost comical
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
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thank you
Have a great week?


It will be great. Am just finishing up a batch of goats milk honey oatmeal soap. Running to the threads between stirring and pouring. You have a great week too. For what it's worth, I miss those less hectic days too.

Des





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