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Originally posted by Gridrebel
Are the teachers still collecting a pay check???? If not, do taxpayers get a"refund"? Maybe to offset losing wages to take care of their children or getting a sitter.
Then why are Chicago's teachers failing when other teachers are not??? You know, "the ones being forced to conform to a federal, one-size -fits-all curriculum." It SOOOO is the teachers fault. Reading should be the first and foremost subject taught to students above all other academics. If you can read, you can learn math, science, geography, history etc. There is no excuse.
Originally posted by nunya13
I live in Boise Id and the median salary for teachers is $50k, which is a pretty average wage for a decent standard of living. We have a MUCH lower cost of living than Chicago.
Teachers dont just work school hours. They take work home with them alot. They also take summer jobs or take the opportunity to spend time with their own kids. They are also spending more and more of their own income on school supplies for kids. My sister begs me for those food box tops so she can actually teach her kids and keep them interested. She certainly doesnt make $70k or even $50k for that matter.
You want to blame the teachers for poor performance, but they are he ones being forced to conform to a federal, one-size -fits-all curriculum. Basically, our kids are only taught what will be on that federal test at the end of the year. then the school board puts so much pressure on these teachers because they are desperately wanting that fedeal subsidy. I wonder how much the feds spend on those tests? The tests that are supposed to be the end-all be-all to how teachers perform in school? As if the parents, kids, school itself or a myriad of other factors have nothing to do with it?
Blame the tachers all you want, but that just means the real culprits, the federal govt (no
matter whos in charge) get away with it.
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by Gridrebel
Are the teachers still collecting a pay check???? If not, do taxpayers get a"refund"? Maybe to offset losing wages to take care of their children or getting a sitter.
Why wouldn't they be? It is a contract based salary.
No, no refund.
Bloom is not concerned with knowledge or understanding. He and his other behavioralists are concerned only with whether the student manifests “learned behavior.” Bloom explains: “The emphasis of this Handbook is on obtaining evidence on the extent to which desired and intended behaviors have been learned by the student.” Id. at 13. Note that it is not information that is learned, it is “behavior” that is learned.
I don't see what the big deal is here. If you think this is bad, just wait until all the other unions join in and start demanding. It's gonna happen. If this is all it takes to cause "chaos", then when the real cuts hit next year America is going to be in "anarchy" (probably redefined as "unacceptably inconvenient!")
It's Obamas 'hometown'.
You want to blame the teachers for poor performance, but they are he ones being forced to conform to a federal, one-size -fits-all curriculum.
Originally posted by xuenchen
Strike: Obama's Chicago in Chaos as Teachers Walk Out on Needy Kids
Chicago mayor, Rahm Emanuel seems to have a problem with the Teachers union.
They are on strike.
It's been 25 years since the last strike.
Naturally this seems like the standard Unions vs Government.
But I bet the deals are sealed already and they are just putting on a show to rival recent Union fallbacks in other cities and states.
Rahm Emanuel always said "never let a good crisis go to waste"
They will manipulate this for political reasons.
Watch the "outcome" of this to appear to be in favor of the Unions.
Watch how they will "justify" tax increases later on.
This strike is in Chicago, not Wisconsin.
President Barack Obama's home town is in chaos as the Chicago Teachers Union has declared a strike starting Monday for the first time in 25 years, defying former Obama chief of staff, now Chicago mayor, Rahm Emanuel.
Parents are outraged as children struggling through the city's troubled school system will now miss critical days at the start of the year. Working families are scrambling to make alternative arrangements for child care.
The strike pits Emanuel, a key figure in Obama's political constellation against a vital left-wing constituency--namely, teachers' unions. Teacher pay, benefits, and job security were all issues upon which the two sides failed to agree. However, the broader picture is the political struggle between unions and Democrat politicians as a new wave of Republican reformers and conservative reformist policies has emerged to threaten both.
CHICAGO (CBS) – A day after Chicago Public Schools’ teachers overwhelmingly authorized a strike, CBS 2 wanted to know how much the average teacher earns.
As CBS 2’s Dana Kozlov found out, it depends on who you ask.
Salary figures provided by the Chicago Public Schools show teachers here have the highest average salary of any city in the nation. But, according to the Chicago Teachers Union’s calculations, Chicago teachers would rank second behind New York City.
How Much Do Chicago Public School Teachers Make?
The "Strike" is perfect timing
Originally posted by DoubleDNH
Obama's Chicago? Leave it to Breitbart to blame everything on Obama. I understand that at one point he was a senator for Illinois but now everything that goes awry in Chicago is Obama's doing? You do realize that he has no direct control over who strikes and what individuals do... correct? Breitbart is a freaking joke.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by DoubleDNH
Obama's Chicago? Leave it to Breitbart to blame everything on Obama. I understand that at one point he was a senator for Illinois but now everything that goes awry in Chicago is Obama's doing? You do realize that he has no direct control over who strikes and what individuals do... correct? Breitbart is a freaking joke.
We cant blame everything on Obama... After all Obama is to busy to deal with Chicago politics since he is so busy blaming Bush for everything.
Originally posted by MajorKarma
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by DoubleDNH
Obama's Chicago? Leave it to Breitbart to blame everything on Obama. I understand that at one point he was a senator for Illinois but now everything that goes awry in Chicago is Obama's doing? You do realize that he has no direct control over who strikes and what individuals do... correct? Breitbart is a freaking joke.
We cant blame everything on Obama... After all Obama is to busy to deal with Chicago politics since he is so busy blaming Bush for everything.
No, we can't blame everything on Obama but we can blame Obama and all those he represents, including people who for generations have fed at the Government Trough and have been subsequently Brainwashed to live, breath and breed inside the Federal Government Cabal (the Big Brother State) and I definitely include all Federal Employees, Welfare Recipients, Prison Inmates, Politicians and anyone who for any sustained period has subjected themselves and drawn subsistence from the Federal Government. I include Military on this list if after initial service the individuals re-enlist. No, I am not joking and pardon me for a moment so I can go outside and spit to get the foul taste out of my mouth before continuing.
Originally posted by watchesfromwall
From what I have heard for many weeks, salary for teachers has not become an issue until recently.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by MajorKarma
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by DoubleDNH
Obama's Chicago? Leave it to Breitbart to blame everything on Obama. I understand that at one point he was a senator for Illinois but now everything that goes awry in Chicago is Obama's doing? You do realize that he has no direct control over who strikes and what individuals do... correct? Breitbart is a freaking joke.
We cant blame everything on Obama... After all Obama is to busy to deal with Chicago politics since he is so busy blaming Bush for everything.
No, we can't blame everything on Obama but we can blame Obama and all those he represents, including people who for generations have fed at the Government Trough and have been subsequently Brainwashed to live, breath and breed inside the Federal Government Cabal (the Big Brother State) and I definitely include all Federal Employees, Welfare Recipients, Prison Inmates, Politicians and anyone who for any sustained period has subjected themselves and drawn subsistence from the Federal Government. I include Military on this list if after initial service the individuals re-enlist. No, I am not joking and pardon me for a moment so I can go outside and spit to get the foul taste out of my mouth before continuing.
I think you are misguided to the point where it becomes hilarious. If you acquaint yourself with what educated people call "history", you'll quickly find out that what you are opposing is not some "Cabal" (derp!), but the very idea of State. Congrats.
Every single State that existed as such funded particular activities. Again, I'm not going to read a history book for you because I'm not your Big Brother. Do yourself a favor.
But I'll give you one example: ancient Rome, a great and glorious Empire. A strong state. It strength on a large part depended on a system of roads, which were strictly regulated by, and funded by the government. There was in fact a combination of "federal" and "local" roads, just like we have here in the US. There were 29 highways coming our of Rome, and all of Europe was covered with a network of this high quality transportation system.
You are a product of a massive brainwash conducted by the right wing, which aim to only maintain a system for, and feed the top 1%. And the rest of society can go to hell. That's what your stance is about.
Originally posted by MajorKarma
First, be assured I don't find you amusing
just as many of the Romans you appear so impressed with did when their crimes and repressions throughout their empire rose up to haunt them
I am almost 60, a former Marine, an Engineer and MBA...
I oppose you with my last breath.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by MajorKarma
First, be assured I don't find you amusing
Was I asking that? Do I care? /yawn/
just as many of the Romans you appear so impressed with did when their crimes and repressions throughout their empire rose up to haunt them
I see. You are too good for the Roman Empire. I just wonder what celestial sphere you prefer as your place of abode. Because you know, Earth is just that, made of dirt. And the Roman Empire was just an empire, and yes, empires do engage in crimes and repressions, but you decided to point out the obvious anyway.
Now, you seem to press the point that you don't believe in the idea of a State anyhow. OK, I get it, you are an anarchist. Or so it appears.
I am almost 60, a former Marine, an Engineer and MBA...
I don't see how's that of importance to this thread. Your credentials are OK, but I'm not easily impressed.
I oppose you with my last breath.
Why, for pointing out complete lack of SUBSTANCE in your post?