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UN Bias Against Israel

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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What better way to highlight the egregious UN bias against Israel than analyzing Ban Ki Moons recent speech, in which he devoted 169 words to criticizing Israel on the Gaza blockade, verses 153 words for the bloodbath in Syria, which has seen more people dead in the last month alone than in the entire Palestinian-Israel debacle.

So the real underlying question is: How can people see this and not be at the very least bothered by this disproportionate attention? Whatever's happening in Gaza, it's mostly the fault of the government of Hamas - who btw has just shot 2 grad missiles in Israel which just 2 days ago. Compare this to the REAL humans right crisis in Syria; how dare anyone make a mockery of this by politicizing the issue by subordinating it to the much less serious, yet far more expedient, topic of the Gaza blockade.

Yet is happens, right before our eyes, and how many will criticize Ban Ki Moon for his inordinate emphasis on an issue far less critical than the one in Syria; how many will have the maturity, and moral awareness to notice that something is extremely wrong with this?


UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon called on Israel to lift the blockade of Gaza Monday during a speech to the UN Human rights Council in Geneva where he devoted 169-words of a 1,528-word address to Gaza and the Palestinian issue, and 153 words to the bloodbath in Syria.

Various estimates put the number of dead in the Syrian civil war at between 25,000 – 33,000, half of them civilians.

Ban also made no mention of Iran, its human rights abuses or genocidal threats. The secretary-general defied US and Israeli requests last month to stay away from the Non-Aligned Movement conference in Tehran that the regime there used to prop its legitimacy both domestically and around the world.

"This is part of the UN's institutional bias against Israel, and is par for the course," one Israeli government official said. "I would like to say I am surprised, but I am not."

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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You do realise that the way that the psychopath Netanyahu has build up Israel, it is now completely comparable to the former apartheid system of South Africa?

The area is suitable for jews as well as arabs, and while no-one can probably fully tell who cast the first stone, the Israeli terrorists most definitely are no saints themselves.

I salute Ki-Moon for these comments. It truly shows an unbiased man that doesn't have to weigh out a single statement but is able to do it over turns. Ki-Moon have commented on and to Iran and is equally allowed to do the same to Israel which by far is the biggest hurdle towards peace in the middle east.

I have to be honest, if the Israeli people overthrew Netanyahu and forced a new democratic election then we would be far closer towards peace. And once peace arrives in the middle east, there will be far more peace in the world and no need for America to keep producing weapons or playing the unwanted watchdog role.

The people say no, it's just a question of when the so-called leaders of the three countries (America, Israel and Iran) hear them.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Its not the quantity of words to describe the issues but the quality.

Example:

Syria is, has been very very very very very very very very very very very very very bad (Word count: 18)
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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You do realise that the way that the psychopath Netanyahu has build up Israel, it is now completely comparable to the former apartheid system of South Africa?


Care to justify that claim with facts??

Heres a Thread I made on the Subject of Israel and accusations of "Apartheid"



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
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You do realise that the way that the psychopath Netanyahu has build up Israel, it is now completely comparable to the former apartheid system of South Africa?


Care to justify that claim with facts??

Heres a Thread I made on the Subject of Israel and accusations of "Apartheid"



- The creation of separate road systems to differentiate palestinians from Israelis, fx. highway 60.
- The destruction of houses and relocation of it's Palestinian in-habitants just recently.
- The deportation of African foreigners who often are refugees, because Israel won't recognise their refugee status, despite ISRAELI refugee agencies advise not to deport those people.
- The large number of checkpoints which hinder Palestinians from moving freely around and to the Westbank.
- Differentiating in education... Israeli government spending more money on jewish children than on Palestianian children.

The list goes on... I really don't care what propaganda BS you have written up in that thread. I will be so blunt as calling your an f*''ing liar and a zionist shill...



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
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You do realise that the way that the psychopath Netanyahu has build up Israel, it is now completely comparable to the former apartheid system of South Africa?


Care to justify that claim with facts??

Heres a Thread I made on the Subject of Israel and accusations of "Apartheid"



I believe the last time I posted this video at your request you threw a hissy fit.

"Road Map to Israeli Apartheid"



As much as a joke that the UN is, Israel deserves every bit of criticism that comes their way you might as well learn to live with it because the world is waking up to the situation over there and people are really getting sick of it.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Not to be biased, but images like this are all to common.

I am not passing any judgment, but if you search anything to do with the relationship between Israeli's and Palestinians, disproportional images like this always crop up.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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And then there's this.... scroll to 1:15 if you want to see a Palestinian boy being tackled by an Israeli soldier and then kicked by another soldier.


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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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The creation of separate road systems to differentiate palestinians from Israelis, fx. highway 60.


And why do those road systems exist? What was the logic behind apartheid? RACISM. Why do those road systems exist in the west bank?? To SEPARATE the Jewish settlers from the Palestinians, not for racist reasons, but for reasons of SAFETY.

Your first point, completely unjustified. Absolutely no connection to apartheid. The purpose for the different road systems are logistical, for the safety of Jewish residents in a very inhospitable Islamist region; it has nothing whatsoever to do with racism Conversely, in South Africa, EVERYTHING was done out of racism, of a belief in the superiority of whites over blacks.




The destruction of houses and relocation of it's Palestinian in-habitants just recently.


And you don't recall Israel destroying Jewish communities in gush Katiff, evicting 10,000 Jewish residents from the region?? Or what about the recent Israeli supreme court decision to evict 50 Israeli families (about 400 people) from Migron in the west bank???

I like how you pick and choose your examples. Again, what you accuse Israel of doing to the Palestinians, they also do to Israelis; disproving again your accusation of racism.




The deportation of African foreigners who often are refugees, because Israel won't recognise their refugee status, despite ISRAELI refugee agencies advise not to deport those people.


The presence of Sudanese in Israel is ILLEGAL; additionally, Israel already has major housing issues. Why isn't that a legitimate concern? Why should Israel be expected to absorb a foreign population when it's domestic population is already short on housing units? How do you expect the citizens to react to that?? How would YOU react to that?

Again, you are REACHING - pathetically might I add - to justify this tawdry and immoral claim of Apartheid in Israel, when the subject of the Sudanese, although unfortunate, and sympathized with by Israelis, is an issue not because they are black - which you are perversely assuming - but because Israelis are already short on houses for Israelis.




The large number of checkpoints which hinder Palestinians from moving freely around and to the Westbank.


That's logistical. Even the terrorists themselves say the many roadblocks they have to go through impairs their ability to carry out terror attacks. How in the hell do you see racism in this, when Israel does this out of concern for the safety of their public???




Differentiating in education... Israeli government spending more money on jewish children than on Palestianian children.


That's because Israel is a JEWISH country; likewise, in the US, we teach AMERICAN, and not Mexican history, despite the large presence of Mexicans in the country.

BTW, what kind of "apartheid" government, has arabic as a co-official language? Has 10+ Arab MKs?? Do you not know anything about apartheid south africa? Blacks were BARRED from participating in the democratic process; to quote Alan Dershowitz:


Most egregious of all is Carters use of the word apartheid and other terms associated with it. He fails to describe the apartheid system in south africa, which does not remotely resemble Israel - the pervasive racial segregation laws; the censorship of the media; the banning of political parties; the torture and murder of human rights activists in detention; the indoctrination of children with racial ideology; the removal of voting rights from the blacks; the use of death penalty for political crimes; and so on. His omission is obviously willful, because any accurate description of real apartheid would make it clear to the reader that the word applies far more precisely to Palestinian governance than to Israeli governance, even on the west bank


And according to Rhoda Kadalie and Julie Bertlsmann, two black South African women activists


Israel is not an apartheid state...Arab citizens of Israel can vote and serve in the knesset; black South Africans could not vote until 1994. There are no laws in Israel that discriminate against Arab citizens or separate them from Jews....South Africa had a job reservation policy for white people; Israel has adopted pro-Arab affirmative action measures in some sectors. Israeli schools, universities and hospitals make no distinction between Jews and Arabs. An Arab citizen who brings a case before Israeli court will have that case decided on the basis of merits, not ethnicity. This was never the case for blacks under apartheid.


So much for your argument.

Please go pollute another thread with your stupidity.

The topic of this thread - the disproportionate emphasis on Israel relative to the very serious crisis in Syria, proves itself

Only morons, ignoramuses and politically motivated shills can ignore what's wrong with this.
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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The UN is hardly biased against Israel. If anything Israel has gotten nothing but a free ride from the UN. Israel has been committing one human rights violation after another for over six decades now. Israel has broken more international laws than the rest of the world combined and the UN stands by and does nothing about it. Israeli treatment of non-Israelis in territories occupied by Israel for the past forty years, has been compared to South Africa's treatment of non-whites during the apartheid era by various instances and persons such as the Congress of South African Trade Unions, Jimmy Carter, archbishop Desmond Tutu and Michael Ben-Yair, attorney-general of Israel. In 2009, South Africa's Human Sciences Research Council released a 300-page study that concluded that Israel practiced colonialism and apartheid in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. To say the UN is biased against Israel is laughable at best.

SA academic study finds that Israel is practicing apartheid and colonialism in the Occupied Palestinian Territories



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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- because the UN is totally into the hoax of the by her created M-east 'problem '

create two so-called 'enemies ' and fool the public

And Devide christianity with this hoax.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:04 PM
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Israel is an apartheid state that even discriminates against what they consider to be "lesser" Jews.

Ethiopians protest racial segregation

UN body "appalled" by Israel’s racial segregation policies


In case what I posted wasn't enough, here is some more Israeli racism:



This racism obviously exists since the Ethiopians are also protesting against the racism they suffer.




posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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I think we are focusing to much on the internal disconnect of Israel and Palestine, i believe the thread is about the relationship between the UN and Israel.

Lets get back on track

No i dont think the UN is being overly bias, they have been quite accomodating, especially with Israels nuclear weapon stores.

EDIT: Lets not turn this into a Isreal bashing thread, though it is likely to end up as one.
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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169 you say? Hmm, isn't that about the number of UN resolutions that Israel has ignored?



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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You do realize Israel doesn't ADMINISTER in the territories.. Do you know that?? They divested from the west banks 5 major population centers in 1995. They're not even in Gaza. The IDF merely paroles the areas contiguous with Israel and roads between Israeli settlements in the west bank. So where is the similarity with apartheid? Where is this policing of the Palestinians by the IDF that you keep referring to?



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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So you don't find anything wrong with devoting more words to criticizing Israel, then the bloodbath, massacre of innocent civilians by an illegitimate government in Syria??

How?!

How can any moral human being not see something wrong with that?? If you have issues with Israel, fine. But in no sense is the suffering in Gaza comparable to the pain and suffering and tragedy currently occurring in Syria right now.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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Safety? Are you for real... that might be the words Nuttyyahu uses, but the fact remains that simply choosing such wording is devastating towards peaceful existence of the two peoples.

It is... Apartheid, and it is so because they were created to seperate one from the other and add to that... Palestians have a harder time being allowed to even drive these roads. Israelis wont be stopped by soldier regularly, Palestinians will.

Nothing you can say will ever make me see the rogue government of Israel and it's crimes against humanity in another light. No propaganda... no made up stories and tales of martyrdom. The Zionists will forever be the scourge of the world until someone brave enough or a straight enough back rises up and demands that no more aid will be delivered to the men of madness inside the Israeli government.

Peace can never come, if we do not distance ourselves from the crimes of Israel.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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I never said Israel was perfect.

What about the racism in the US? What about the racism everywhere in the world?? No country is free from racism. Indeed, the Ethiopians deserve to be treated better. But whats your point? Why do you exclude everyone else guilty of this same offense - racism against a minority group - but Israel, when every country on earth is guilty of it?



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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And why do those road systems exist? What was the logic behind apartheid? RACISM. Why do those road systems exist in the west bank?? To SEPARATE the Jewish settlers from the Palestinians, not for racist reasons, but for reasons of SAFETY. Your first point, completely unjustified. Absolutely no connection to apartheid. The purpose for the different road systems are logistical, for the safety of Jewish residents in a very inhospitable Islamist region; it has nothing whatsoever to do with racism Conversely, in South Africa, EVERYTHING was done out of racism, of a belief in the superiority of whites over blacks.


According to resolution 3379 that UN states that Zionism is racist. And guess who run the government in Israel? Zionist.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
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So you don't find anything wrong with devoting more words to criticizing Israel, then the bloodbath, massacre of innocent civilians by an illegitimate government in Syria??


I'm more disturbed by the amount of UN resolutions that Israel ignores.


How can any moral human being not see something wrong with that?? If you have issues with Israel, fine. But in no sense is the suffering in Gaza comparable to the pain and suffering and tragedy currently occurring in Syria right now.


So what you are saying is that because 16 less words were used about Syria it makes it OK for Israel to continually violate others human rights?




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