Obamacare Summed Up in One Sentence

reply to post by troubleshooter


Obamacare is a step in the wrong direction. The problem is healthcare costs. Obamacare has nothing to address that. The US government is the biggest provider of healthcare in the world. We need to lower costs.

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

Obamacare is a step in the wrong direction. The problem is healthcare costs. Obamacare has nothing to address that. The US government is the biggest provider of healthcare in the world. We need to lower costs.

No, the US needs to find a way to treat people on the basis of 'needs' and not 'means'.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by OccamsRazor04

 

Uhhhh doctors already do this. And have been doing it for years, before Obamacare was ever even written.

I know from personal experience. And this was with private insurance.

edit on 11-9-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

I am replying again to give you a search query.

Medicare cuts to inpatient psych hospitals

But hey, this has been going on forever *cough cough started in 2010 cough cough*

Just wanted to know your opinion before the October debates. Thanks.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by RELDDIR

 

The only thing I like about Obamacare is the pre-existing condition clause and young adults being able to stay on their parents insurance. I am not a fan of the whole package though, I want nationalized healthcare like all the other western countries, along with the option to buy private.

Why are you accepting Obamacare now? Because Romney likes it? Are you still not going to go on about how it is fascist communist and unconstitutional? How it is evil that the government is forcing people to purchase insurance? What exactly do you want to change about it?

reply to post by troubleshooter


No, they need to cut costs to make it affordable. You can not address anything when costs are prohibitive. You keep living in fairy land and I will live in the real world where I will cover every US citizen while slashing healthcare spending by 30%.

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

No, they need to cut costs to make it affordable. You can not address anything when costs are prohibitive. You keep living in fairy land and I will live in the real world where I will cover every US citizen while slashing healthcare spending by 30%.

Ok ... they have to lower costs and have no-one miss out on health care on the basis of need...
...how do you do that?

Do health professionals have to take a haircut and insurance companies tighten their belts?

The fact that the US one of the world's richest countries...
...can't look after the health of its poorest citizens is an international joke.

You must find a way.

reply to post by troubleshooter


We need to stop feeding special interests groups such as pharm companies and insurance companies. Obamacare is rife with making these huge companies rich on Americans back.

Obama is not the solution, he's the problem.

E-mails obtained by the Energy and Commerce Committee show that the White House traded billions of dollars in policy concessions to PhRMA for millions of dollars worth of advertising,

Spend a few million to help us pass this and we will make sure you make billions.
Memos Unveil How White House Worked With PhRMA To Sell Obamacare
online.wsj.com...
hotair.com...
www.theblaze.com...

The worst example of hypocrisy is when they play the victim card, while the REAL BENEFICIARIES stand behind the scenes and applaud.

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

We need to stop feeding special interests groups such as pharm companies and insurance companies. Obamacare is rife with making these huge companies rich on Americans back.

Obama is not the solution, he's the problem.

E-mails obtained by the Energy and Commerce Committee show that the White House traded billions of dollars in policy concessions to PhRMA for millions of dollars worth of advertising,

Spend a few million to help us pass this and we will make sure you make billions.
Memos Unveil How White House Worked With PhRMA To Sell Obamacare
online.wsj.com...
hotair.com...
www.theblaze.com...

Originally posted by troubleshooter

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

No, they need to cut costs to make it affordable. You can not address anything when costs are prohibitive. You keep living in fairy land and I will live in the real world where I will cover every US citizen while slashing healthcare spending by 30%.

Ok ... they have to lower costs and have no-one miss out on health care on the basis of need...
...how do you do that?

Do health professionals have to take a haircut and insurance companies tighten their belts?

The fact that the US one of the world's richest countries...
...can't look after the health of its poorest citizens is an international joke.

You must find a way.

Here's a way - tax churches.

If the US taxed churches it would create $80 billion in revenues. Use that money to provide free health care for all Americans. You would have enough left over to feed all the homeless children in America as well. Health insurance companies would no longer be needed. The money we now pay insurance companies could be used for more productive things.

Or we could just pray to God to end disease and hunger.

Obamacare Summed Up in One Sentence
To much B S paper work,,,,,, To Much Government Involvement.
Read this. Feds need 18 pages to define 'full-time' for Obamacare
It takes them 18 pages to explain the definition of a Full Time Employee, You want them running our Health Care?

In the latest indication of how complicated putting the Affordable Care Act into action will be, the Department of Health and Human Services and Internal Revenue Service issued 18-pages of regulations just to describe what a "full-time employee" is. Of note, to the Feds a full-time employee works an average of just 30 hours a week, not the normally accepted 40 hours.

This is good and scary,,, if I owned a small business with 50 employees,,,, Soooo Sorry Folks your now only working 25 hours aweek each.

The IRS rule is key because companies with more than 50 full-time employees must provide health insurance under Obamacare, or be fined. Business groups have been warning that small companies might try to replace full-time workers with part-time help to avoid being forced to offer health insurance in 2014, but the 30-hour full-time definition is likely to undermine those plans.

Read what someone who knows thinks.

The lengthy 18-page definition caught some in the business world by surprise. "It's scary," said Randy Johnson, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce senior vice president for labor, immigration, and employee benefits. "It's just a small example of two words under our healthcare law of 2,700-pages," he said, adding: "It says to me things are awfully complicated."

washingtonexaminer.com...

Originally posted by RealSpoke
Obamacare is Romneycare, they are identical.

And neither is sustainable.
One look at what Romney did to Massachussetts should send people running for cover!

Copied from: www.liveleak.com...

As recently published by Investor Business Daily, a survey by the U.N. International Health Organization has reported:

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis: U.S. 65% England 46% Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months: U..S. 93% England 15% Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months: U.S. 90% England 15% Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month: U.S. 77% England 40% Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people: U.S. 71 England 14 Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health": U.S. 12% England 2% Canada 6%

www.liveleak.com...

And now for the last statistic, National Health Insurance?
U.S. NO
England YES
Canada YES

We need the Government involved? NO!
Just look at all the Canadians that come to the United States for Treatment.

The nonpartisan Fraser Institute reported that 46,159 Canadians sought medical treatment outside of Canada in 2011, as wait times increased 104 percent — more than double — compared with statistics from 1993

Texteport: Thousands fled Canada for health care in 2011

dailycaller.com...

Originally posted by marg6043
Yes no new doctors, because that is how cuts on medicare and medicaid spending is coming from

See, Obama is cutting everything, to finance Obamacare, but this is not in anyway to benefit the people, insurance will still charge more for services and insurance but you will be seen by what it will become a very demanding career, The nurses assistance this are nurses with master degrees in nursing that will be able to prescribe drugs like doctors do, but are not educated enough in doctorates to make what a private doctor makes.

My daughter is getting her masters now, to get into the demand that will arise after 2014 for this type of providers.

So get ready to see nurses assistance as doctors.

I think you mean Nurse Practitioner.

How can I believe the rest of your post if you didn't even get that right?

reply to post by Stormdancer777


Its amazing that she used a whole sentence, albeit, a long-winded one to describe Obamacare. I can do it in just one word - slavery.

Originally posted by neo96
That is where healthcare rationing comes in checkout that video of Barack saying take a pill instead of getting a pacemaker.

Cost benefit anaylsis aka "death panels".

Obamacare summed up in one sentence?

Screwed.

Ok one word.

Death Panels for the poor.

The best healthcare money can buy for the rich.

That's the way it is in the UK with the NHS.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


Uhhh the poor already have "death panels", AKA no insurance.

This is the disconnect that privatized healthcare advocates have, they have absolutely no clue how people with no money go through.

Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

Uhhh the poor already have "death panels", AKA no insurance.

This is the disconnect that privatized healthcare advocates have, they have absolutely no clue how people with no money go through.

edit on 11-9-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)

The poor have Emergency Rooms and MediCaid.

- Seek the truth -

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The ObamaCare Death Panel will give old people a pain pill.

Sorry, no more money will be wasted on you. Go home and die.

reply to post by yadda333


You are right, dear, I guess you figured out all on you own, still a rat is a rat and rat is what Obamacare is.

Originally posted by VictorVonDoom

Originally posted by troubleshooter

Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by troubleshooter

 

No, they need to cut costs to make it affordable. You can not address anything when costs are prohibitive. You keep living in fairy land and I will live in the real world where I will cover every US citizen while slashing healthcare spending by 30%.

Ok ... they have to lower costs and have no-one miss out on health care on the basis of need...
...how do you do that?

Do health professionals have to take a haircut and insurance companies tighten their belts?

The fact that the US one of the world's richest countries...
...can't look after the health of its poorest citizens is an international joke.

You must find a way.

Here's a way - tax churches.

If the US taxed churches it would create $80 billion in revenues. Use that money to provide free health care for all Americans. You would have enough left over to feed all the homeless children in America as well. Health insurance companies would no longer be needed. The money we now pay insurance companies could be used for more productive things.

Or we could just pray to God to end disease and hunger.

I actually think this is a good suggestion...
...but I also think you will find churches pay taxes indirectly already.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

a physician running for the Illinois State Senate sums up ObamaCare in one sentence

youtu.be...

So, let me get this straight. This is a long sentence. We’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan that we’re forced to purchase and fined if we don’t, which purportedly covers at least 10 million more people without adding a single doctor but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that didn’t read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President who smokes — [laughter] — same sentence! — with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government that has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese — [laughter] — and finally, financed by a country that’s broke.

At the end, Dr. Bellar even channeled Allahpundit with this exit question:

So what the blank could possibly go wrong?

hotair.com...

I thought he quit smoking,

I'f she really thinks that Romney will be any different then the last 4 carbon copies she is really preparing herself for dissapointment! We don't elect presidents just choose the figurehead puppet of the elite!
If Americans havent realised we are enslaved we may never figure it out!