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Obamacare Summed Up in One Sentence

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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a physician running for the Illinois State Senate sums up ObamaCare in one sentence


youtu.be...




So, let me get this straight. This is a long sentence. We’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan that we’re forced to purchase and fined if we don’t, which purportedly covers at least 10 million more people without adding a single doctor but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that didn’t read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President who smokes — [laughter] — same sentence! — with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government that has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese — [laughter] — and finally, financed by a country that’s broke.

At the end, Dr. Bellar even channeled Allahpundit with this exit question:

So what the blank could possibly go wrong?


hotair.com...

I thought he quit smoking,




posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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I hope she knows that Romney invented Obamacare.

& that Romney also wants to keeps it.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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I tell you, Stormdancer, people like us here in ATS have the real scoop on what is going on with the Obamacare, it saddens me, that many are still falling for the lies of the healthcare reform when they never have even read or research on the crap that is behind it.

Deceptions and lies that is what politicians are good at.

I have this information that will open more the eyes of the unbeliever about the deception of Obamacrap.

The Federal Government Has Been Bailing Out Romneycare, but Who Will Be Available to Bail Out Obamacare?

danieljmitchell.wordpress.com... /

MASSACHUSETTS GOING BANKRUPT OVER HEALTHCARE

www.sodahead.com...

The no so secrets about the Obamacrap and its Massachusetts modeling

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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I don't know that much about Romney care, but regardless she makes some valid points.

I am all for a reasonable and rational health care plan for Americans, I don't have any myself.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:24 PM
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covers at least 10 million more people without adding a single doctor


So we should not cover any more people because we don't have enough Doctors?






a government that has already bankrupted Social Security


Really?



It is a logical impossibility for Social Security to go bankrupt.

Forbes.com



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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reply to post by marg6043
 


Thanks marg I will check that out.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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reply to post by BritofTexas
 


I suggest that you go to your local IRS office for your next prostate exam. They'll have 16,000 newbies to check you out. Look for the agent with the smallest hands...


10 million additional patients and no additional doctors?? That's a problem. A problem that will clog the system for all!! Imagine how many doctors will take there retirements early if all keeps moving forward as planned. That will just further strap the system.. Many DR.'s practice well past standard retirement age. That will change...



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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I would think the influx of new patients would create more demand for doctors, and more people would choose to become doctors as a result. More patients = more jobs.

And even if that means doctors will have to work harder to treat more people, the alternative (the way its been for years) is almost unspeakable. To let the poor suffer without treatment so that the rich will have more convenient access to healthcare... it's a very inhumane concept if you ask me.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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I suggest that you go to your local IRS office for your next prostate exam. They'll have 16,000 newbies to check you out. Look for the agent with the smallest hands...

ROFLMAO

You're Right!
Hire more people to spy on your bank accounts and steal your life savings if you don't comply!
Isn't that the truth!
Go on out Sheeples and get your bottle of Hydrogen Barrackside now.

You'll need it,,,, with the number of doctors talking about cash only treatments soon,,,, Like China

In Chinese hospitals, drug overprescription and bribery are rampant, as doctors have below-standard pay rates, with the top ones earning only up to $600 a month.
www.hightable.com...
The only time you'll use Obamacare is,

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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Sure, but it takes years to train them, so we will crunch for several years....and by then, someone will decide that it's not working and dump it, then we'll have a glut of doctors with no patients. Or patience.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 01:53 PM
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And even if that means doctors will have to work harder to treat more people,

LOL's

Doctors are not going into the field to work harder,,,, they want to be payed for their skills, not the pitiful amount they'll receive as payment from obamacare.
Doctors have very large student loan to pay off and how about that Mercedes or BMW payment.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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That is where healthcare rationing comes in checkout that video of Barack saying take a pill instead of getting a pacemaker.

Cost benefit anaylsis aka "death panels".

Obamacare summed up in one sentence?

Screwed.

Ok one word.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777


So, let me get this straight. This is a long sentence. We’re going to be gifted with a healthcare plan that we’re forced to purchase and fined if we don’t, which purportedly covers at least 10 million more people without adding a single doctor but provides for 16,000 new IRS agents, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn’t understand it, passed by a Congress that didn’t read it but exempted themselves from it, and signed by a President who smokes — [laughter] — same sentence! — with funding administered by a Treasury chief who didn’t pay his taxes, for which we will be taxed for four years before any benefits take effect, by a government that has already bankrupted Social Security and Medicare, all to be overseen by a Surgeon General who is obese — [laughter] — and finally, financed by a country that’s broke.




So let me get this straight...Some nitwit rambles off a long list of BS...and you applaud it because it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy in your frontal lobe...without wondering if any of it is accurate?




16,000 IRS agents will enforce Obama health care law: FALSE

IRS budget requests for the 2012 and 2013 fiscal years show they asked for about 375 more agents so far -- far less than 16,000.

www.politifact.com...

AND...Social Security and Medicare ...are not bankrupt, the last administration (GOP) just borrowed craploads of money from the funds to finance two invasions/wars and would now like to get rid of those pesky elderly who expect the Gov. to pay the fund back.

Social Security and Medicare "drive the debt" the same way a Credit Card bill does...stop borrowing money from the funds and pay back what you took.
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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Man -- you are so right. What we should do instead is double the price of our already over-inflated healthcare, and cut our existing wait times in half!



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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Really an over inflated healthcare system funny part is that healthcare was cheaper until Obama and the left decided to make it "cheaper" but has made it more expensive.

Healthcare is a corporate product, from big pharma and the medicines to education to to those other corporate entities that make all the instruments.

But hey who really cares crash the healthcare system which is the goal to institute that famous single payer.

But it's not a single payer just like now your going to end up paying for other peoples insurance so what is the difference?

Oh the difference would be like all the big oil corporations forming a super oil company where there is only one place to get it and they can cover and charge whatever the hell they want.

Golf clap for the fascists.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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I suggest that you go to your local IRS office for your next prostate exam. They'll have 16,000 newbies to check you out. Look for the agent with the smallest hands...


Ah. I see your problem. You think The IRS are going to double as Doctors. This is, in fact, untrue.





10 million additional patients and no additional doctors?? That's a problem. A problem that will clog the system for all!! Imagine how many doctors will take there retirements early if all keeps moving forward as planned. That will just further strap the system.. Many DR.'s practice well past standard retirement age. That will change...


More Doctors and Nurses and who knows what other staff are going to be needed for 10,000,000 more patients.

Sounds like a good bit of job creation to me.


Why are you anti job creation.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by drwizardphd
reply to post by jibeho
 


I would think the influx of new patients would create more demand for doctors, and more people would choose to become doctors as a result. More patients = more jobs.

And even if that means doctors will have to work harder to treat more people, the alternative (the way its been for years) is almost unspeakable. To let the poor suffer without treatment so that the rich will have more convenient access to healthcare... it's a very inhumane concept if you ask me.


That would be the case in a perfect world. Unfortunately, we live in a world run by cartels and dishonest politicians.

The Politicians in Washington gave the AMA a monopoly on accrediting the training of new doctors. The AMA used its power to quickly cut the number of teaching hospitals and new doctor slots to drive up medical costs.


Medical Costs and the Impact of the
Subsidization of a Cartelized Industry


The rise in the cost of medical care is said to be out of control and somewhat of a mystery. However there is really no mystery involved. It is is due to the subsidization of an industry which there is effectively a cartel operating to restrict the supply of medical practitioners.

Around 1900 there was a concerted effort on the part of physicians in the U.S. to restrict the supply of doctors; as they termed it, "To practice professional birth control." First campaigns were conducted in every state to require doctors to pass an examination in order to practice medicine in that state. That was easy for everyone to accept as reasonable. However it is one thing for the government to create a program of certification and yet another thing to create licensing. Certification provides consumers with information whereas licensing is always a vehicle for restricting supply. In the case of physicians it was then specified that in order to take the examination a candidate had to be a graduate of an accredited medical school. Somehow that deviated from the goal of requiring competency for medical practioners. But most would accept that as probably basically wise. Then came the clencher. Who was to be the accrediting agency for the the medical schools. The task was given to a committee of the American Medical Association (AMA). The AMA is basically the union for doctors, or perhaps more accurately the guild for the doctors.

Representatives of the state AMA committees with the power to lift the accreditation of medical schools went around to those medical schools telling them that it did not think they could not do an adequate job of training the number of doctors they were training and that half that number was more suitable. The medical schools had no choice. The lifting of their accreditation would eliminate all demand for their services.

San José State University Department of Economics


The AMA quickly reduced the number of medical schools and students from 160 schools with 28,000 students in 1904 to 85 schools with only 13,800 students by 1920. Their ultimate goal was to have only 31 schools with 2000 students graduating per year.


The AMA created a cartel to limit the number of doctors and drive costs through the roof.


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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Yes no new doctors, because that is how cuts on medicare and medicaid spending is coming from

See, Obama is cutting everything, to finance Obamacare, but this is not in anyway to benefit the people, insurance will still charge more for services and insurance but you will be seen by what it will become a very demanding career, The nurses assistance this are nurses with master degrees in nursing that will be able to prescribe drugs like doctors do, but are not educated enough in doctorates to make what a private doctor makes.

My daughter is getting her masters now, to get into the demand that will arise after 2014 for this type of providers.

See, lowering care or the necessity of good specialized Doctors will decrease health care cost, or that is what the Government thinks, if you are a young person, healthy or in Medicare or Medicaid expect to be seen by a nurse assistance and not a doctor, you will never know the difference unless you ask for credentials.

Here in my neck of the woods already the major hospital has adopted the practice to have you seen by a nurse assistance while the duty doctor is only for emergency care in the emergency rooms we all know that most of the people that comes to the emergency room are either on crucial need of care or poor people that have not insurance.

So get ready to see nurses assistance as doctors.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Stop drinking the kool aid before its too late...


A recent survey by the Doctor Patient Medical Association Foundation reveals that 83 percent of physicians surveyed are thinking of quitting because of Obamacare, and 90 percent feel that the U.S. health care system is now heading in the wrong direction.

This result is not a surprise; patients everywhere need to be concerned that Obamacare is putting an enormous new weight on the back of doctors who were already over-burdened.



Will the best and the brightest continue to choose medicine as a career? Medical school admissions are down by 6% at a time when the Association of American Medical Colleges predicts a shortage of 160,000 by 2025. And the effective shortage of doctors who will work with Obamacare is far greater. Doctors who are already in practice will drop out of insurances, move to hospitals to work for a salary, or accept cash only. This trend will create a two-tiered system of health care and could be a knife in the back of Obamacare, which relies on physician participation with insurances and its expanded patient load to survive.



Those of us who manage to remain in private practice and still accept insurance will have to struggle to survive. At a time of Medicaid expansion, consider that Medicaid pays us on average only 56% of what private insurance does. At a time when baby boomers are going to burst the britches on Medicare, consider that Medicare only pays doctors 81% of what private insurance does. Medicaid and Medicare patients are going to find it increasingly difficult to find a doctor regardless of what President Obama says to the contrary.

The time of greedy doctors is long past. Today’s doctors struggle to maintain quality of care, to continue to provide you the patient with the best treatments and technologies available. When we can no longer do this effectively it will be you the patient who suffers the most.


I'll trust the doctors on this issue... Good luck at the IRS...They're good at sticking people... Remember...small hands!!

www.forbes.com...



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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You really ought to do more research .



Did you know that American doctors are so incensed over Obamacare's big-government communist socialism that more than eight in ten are going to quit doctoring? It's true, according to a terribly conducted survey conducted by a shady right-wing group, reported credulously by the Daily Caller, and hyped by Matt Drudge and Fox News.


Comically Awful Survey Says 83 Percent Of Doctors Might Quit Over Obamacare

Looks like being a Doctor isn't a bad paid job.



Median compensation for primary care physicians grew five percent last year to $212,840, capping a five-year increase of 16.7 percent from 2007 to 2011.


Primary Care Doctor Pay Jumps Past $200K As Obamacare, Market Push New Pay Methods

Every post that I read of yours, I hear this.





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