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Mitt Romney 'Not Getting Rid of All of Health Care Reform'

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Mitt Romney raised some eyebrows today when he said, "I'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform."

That sounded quite different from the mantra he has repeated for months, that he would "repeal Obamacare."

Though the Romney campaign quickly said there has been no change in position, it's clear that despite the rhetoric, the Republican nominee would keep some of the popular elements of President Obama's healthcare reform act.

"Well, I'm not getting rid of all of healthcare reform," Romney said in an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"Of course there are a number of things that I like in healthcare reform that I'm going to put in place," he said. "One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage."

Romney added that he would like families to be able to insure members, including children, for an indefinite period.

But those elements, even though they sound a lot like parts of the president's plan, would only be implemented after the Affordable Care Act is repealed, the Romney campaign told ABC News.



I have said dozens of times, in many threads created by Romney/GOP supporters in denial that Romney WILL NOT get rid of Obamacare. He supports that type of healthcare himself. What we are seeing here are the very first stages of weaseling out and flip flopping.

Romney is now sending a very mixed message of keeping some of Obamacare, but only after he has repealed it, and yadda yadda. He now claims that he is going to keep the things about it that people like by instituting a new healthcare reform (romneycare anyone?). This of course is just to create wiggle room. If he is elected he will talk about how difficult it is to remove Obamacare, so he will start tweaking it, OR he will say it's easier to manipulate rather than remove. Either way, all of the Romney people who bought this garbage are nearing dinner time.

When I posted that Romney would never repeal Obamacare I got pretty much only crickets in reply. America is on a set track, we have seen massive voting fraud exposed this year with no change. Now we will see that the differences between these candidates (predetermined by wherever their money comes from) is only skin deep, if that, and these candidate are taking us down the same road. Romney just had to beat around the bush and say he would end Obamacare to appease the GOP.

Watch, Romney has no intention of repealing Obamacare, maybe no ability to.

news.yahoo.com...
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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I wonder which parts he's keeping and which parts he's repealing... Something tells me he doesn't even know the answer to that. As with everything else about his platform, we'll have to elect him on faith (Just trust me) and find out after he's in and there's nothing we can do about it...

No, thanks!



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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If you watched the sunday roundtables, etc. Ryan hints these things will come out during the debates.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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He means, he will keep voters on there toes for which voters dislike and like the Healthcare act.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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“What the Court did not do on its last day in session I will do on my first day if elected President of the United States. And that is I will act to repeal Obamacare....Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It's bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today.” – Mitt Romney


Source

He's broken his first promise before he's even in office!

He wants it both ways.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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The Republican Congress will not let Romney or Obama get away with NOT REPEALING THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE. Romney has a great record of balancing budgets during his Governorship of Massachussets, 2002 Winter Olympics, and Bain. And his executive experience will tie together the numbers crunching required to balance the U.S. Budget over 8 years.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
The Republican Congress will not let Romney or Obama get away with NOT REPEALING THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE. Romney has a great record of balancing budgets during his Governorship of Massachussets, 2002 Winter Olympics, and Bain. And his executive experience will tie together the numbers crunching required to balance the U.S. Budget over 8 years.


FYI, The individual mandate came from the republicans in congress. It was a mainstay of the Heritage Foundation and the GOP, right up until the moment that President Obama gave in to their demand to adopt it. On top of that, as soon as it was adopted, the GOP launched numerous constitutional challenges against their own proposal. All the while, acting as if they opposed the mandate from the start. It's a shame that facts and empirical evidence prove what a bunch of liars they really are.

The Democrats wanted Medicare For All and/or a Public Option, but we were denied a seat at the table, remember? I'm confident that the individual mandate will be replaced (not repealed, unless that's just part of the process) with Medicare For All and/or the Public Option that the Democrats originally ask for, at some point in the future. When this does happen, it will not be due in any way to GOP activism, but rather against it.

I mean really, I also heard Mitt Romney say that under his plan, he would make sure that individuals who had maintained continuous coverage could still get coverage for pre-existing conditions. Just how much stupid double talk does it take to persuade a republican anyway? If I've maintained continuous coverage, how the hell can I have a "pre-existing" condition? Pre-existing to what?

I have voted republican in the past but I can assure you that won't ever happen again!
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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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If Romney doesn't repeal the individual mandate, he's done.

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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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I think you are witnessing the GOP leadership playing a very slick game right in front of our noses.

First, they say they will repeal Obamcare.

Second, they say they're going to give everyone a waiver.

Third, they say they will not repeal it, just change some things around.

And lastly, we will hear them come out and say that the program is fine just as is and they can live with it!

They are doing this incrementally so that their base will go with the flow so that it doesn't come as a shock when Obamacare doesn't get repealed at all.

Years down the road, if Romney is elected, they will take credit for Obamacare and their base will have forgotten how much they hated it. It will be called a model of a capitalistic healthcare plan, yet it was socialist Marxism under Obama.


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posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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We know about as much as Romney in terms of what he'll do on anything. Like always, he will change on a dime any position, any time based on the audience before him and the poll readings. It is not uncommon for him to say opposite things in a single day. The man has no compass and is as literally unprincipled as one can get.

We only know one real thing about him -- he values profit above all else, first and last. He's never made a single business decision in his life that we know about that ever factored in people. Maybe that's what he was supposed to do as a vulture capitalist (as opposed to a product or service-oriented capitalist, but tell me how that translates into leading a country? Do you want a valueless president who sole criterion for decision-making it the effect on his PERSONAL (and that of HIS investors') bottom line?



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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The thing is that once something gets passed into law it is very seldom, if ever, repealed. I mean sure, we see things that have been passed change due to having time limits or we see things being changed through the amendment procedure but how often do we ever see the government repeal anything?

I don't think it matters who wins the election. Even if some changes are made to "Obamacare" I believe we are stuck with it. A shame really because the major concerns about the healthcare system could have been addressed through regulation without passing "Obamcare" at all.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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At Bain he liquidated businesses for Bain's profit. That does not translate well. It's the quick buck.

How does you think his work destroying jobs, and opening factories in China will benefit us?
You are one in denial, it's good to see how easily his first backslide and lie broke on you. You just took it grinning. I guess seeing him fail on the campaign trail isn't enough, you guys need to see him fail as president before you change your mind and start buying "don't blame me, I voted for the doctor badges."



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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That sounds so stupid, it will definitely work


Like certain people not being angry about spending
Until AFTER thw spending went for a decade



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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...he would have to become President to do it AND then we wouldn't be able to get rid of him. So.. he wouldn't be through. I am not going to get who I want (I will be voting Paul or Johnson), but I would rather have Obama than Romney. At least with Obama I know another Liberty candidate gets a shot in 4 years. If Romney takes it we will have to put up with him for 8 because he is already working on making it impossible to remove him.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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You're going off-topic on your own thread. Trade with China is at the "saturation point" in terms of imports thanks to Obama's China trade policies. Romney can expand trade with China, in terms of exports and reduce trade deficits.

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
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At Bain he liquidated businesses for Bain's profit. That does not translate well. It's the quick buck.

How does you think his work destroying jobs, and opening factories in China will benefit us?
You are one in denial, it's good to see how easily his first backslide and lie broke on you. You just took it grinning. I guess seeing him fail on the campaign trail isn't enough, you guys need to see him fail as president before you change your mind and start buying "don't blame me, I voted for the doctor badges."



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
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If Romney doesn't repeal the individual mandate, he's done.


He's done with what? Doesn't he have to get started before he gets done?

Romney will never repeal any part of The Affordable Care Act because he will never be in a position to do so. I think he's already "done," it's just that the GOP has acquired some kind of a strange illness that has retarded their ability to accept reality. Kinda ironic, if you ask me.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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That pretty much nails it. We are in trouble and are in desperate need of a third party in equal standing. I would personally like to see the liberty party legitimized. Even if a person doesn't support them any time you can break away from the 51% takes it democracy it's a good thing. It hinders fraud and breaks the back and forth that's killing us.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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Well.. I'm if I am off topic it was only in response to your post. Second.. it's my thread so I don't care.

Romney going to Chinese slave labor camps when he was at Bain and buying those factories has nothing to do with Obama's policies. It has more to do with Romney's morality and ethics and how those apply to people. Destroying jobs in America to send the work to factories where young Chinese women live and work 24/7 in cramped quarters for almost no money.

There is no defined topic here. Call this thread a footnote in the ongoing hypocrisy of Romney.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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Oh definitely. That's what I was trying to say, I maybe wasn't as articulate. IF he were elected (big IF) he would change it to "no need to repeal, just a few changes" and then finally to "eh.. everything looks good." It was "meant to be" I guess, very little politics in it, lot's of planning.

Increments though, that's how everything is done in the US. Even something as simple as gas prices. It starts at $1.60, they run it up to $4.00, then when they drop it down to $2.50 no one complains.. just happy that it's not 4 bucks anymore. Doomed by our own attention spans.



posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Actually he almost bankrupted his state with his health care but got bailed out by the Obama administration.

What Romney and Obama took very much care to keep under the table about the Massachusetts healthcare mess and Obama modeling his Obamacare from the state.



Still the mandate is out of the table thanks to the supreme court the only way to force the people into buying insurance sold by the corrupted insurance companies is with taxes on the hard working class that are now at the mercy of Obamacare.


MASSACHUSETTS GOING BANKRUPT OVER HEALTHCARE

www.sodahead.com...

The Federal Government Has Been Bailing Out Romneycare, but Who Will Be Available to Bail Out Obamacare?

danieljmitchell.wordpress.com... /

That is why I don't believe any of the crap that comes out of the political whores in the nation.



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