posted on Sep, 10 2012 @ 11:36 PM
You know, for as advanced as the US is one would think they would be smart enough not to use torture. It is irrefutable that torture produces a
confession. No matter how tough someone is, torture administered regularly will eventually break even the toughest will. But that is not a good thing,
because just because someone breaks does not mean they are giving good intelligence.
I would bet that more often than not, when dealing with people who are supposedly radical fundamentalists, they are not going to tell what they know.
Period. They will likely confess multiple times, as long as the torture continues, but they very well may keep pertinent and valuable information to
themselves. Someone who is being tortured, and I know this from firsthand experience, will say anything to make it stop. This is how totalitarian
regimes get confessions out of so many people who are claimed to be dissidents or enemies, when there in fact is no basis for such claims.
I can think of 3 major cases off the top of my head right now in which a high-ranking individual gave false confessions under duress, although these
cases are spread out throughout history. We don't hear about all the little fish that are tortured until they give something up. But it is quite
different if the people administering the torture want a confession, or if they want information. The latter can be much more dangerous, and I believe
this is what was ultimately wanted at places like Guantanamo Bay.
This is because information can often be verified, and if it is found to be false information after the fact, the torture will only get worse, most
likely. I suppose it depends on who is doing the torturing, and how and why they are doing it, because you can only torture someone so much without
killing them. Now I've heard stories, some having to do with cartels, and others having to do with actual governments, of people being tortured
incessantly until they are near death, and then basically being nursed back to health, only to have it happen all over again. Honestly, that is the
ultimate way to break anyone. Because once you are being tortured that badly, you will welcome death, and you know that the most they can do is kill
you. Of course you aren't thinking straight, but just about anyone will know that. If you die, the pain goes away.
So the thought of having it happen all over again, after your body has been traumatized so dramatically, and healed to a certain degree, is probably
just as effective as the torture itself, after a while. The only people who will give up good intelligence when being tortured the way the US is
torturing people are those who aren't fanatical, and not 100% committed to their cause or allies. I'm pretty much rambling on now, but I think I
made the point I was trying to make, which is that torture usually is not effective.
You will usually get more bad intelligence than you do good intelligence, and when those administering the torture are always having to second guess
the information they receive, things are going to end up grinding to a snail's pace. But if the same people have been in the prison, being tortured
intermittently, for a long time, if the torture keeps going on, the better the information that will start to come out. This may seem contradictory to
what I said earlier, and maybe you're right, but it all depends both on those administering the torture, and those experiencing it.
It needs to stop regardless. Even if it were a good means to gather intelligence, it is amoral. What is the point of being a superpower if you have no
moral compass? People were not put on this Earth to hurt other people, plain and simple. It is not necessary, as there are other ways. And one of the
worst parts is that most of the people who end up being tortured probably are not affiliated with those whom the torturers think they are. In the
former Soviet Union, and other dictatorships (and the Soviets had a dictatorship under Stalin...It wasn't Communism), all someone had to do was turn
over the name of someone they didn't like, and bam, they were going to have bad things happen to them. This happens in the Middle East and Asia
Minor, where are troops are snatching people up for "interrogation" in Cuba.