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Actually, they're not saying that.
Read about what they could be using it for, why they say they are using it. Then look at the the US, Israel, IAEA, and Iran (too name a couple) intelligence, and wonder why they are all saying that Iran is not making a nuclear bomb.
Iran is hiding the requested (and required under the treaty) access to various sites to verify that they are not using nuclear materials for military purposes. In short, Iran is saying "Oh, we're innocent." While not allowing the required checks.
Touching upon his report on the implementation of nuclear safeguards in Iran, the head of the UN's nuclear watchdog noted that despite the intensified dialogue between the Agency and Iran since January, the no concrete results have been achieved so far. This is frustrating because, without Iran's full engagement, we will not be able to start the process to resolve all outstanding issues, including those concerning possible military dimensions to its nuclear program, he told the meeting.
He said it is "a matter of concern that activities which have taken place since February 2012 at Parchin will have an adverse impact on our ability to undertake effective verification there." Amano said that despite Iran's rejection in a letter dated 29 August 2012 that the allegation of nuclear activities at the Parchin site was 'baseless,' "the activities observed further strengthen our assessment that it is necessary to have access to the location at Parchin without further delay in order to obtain the required clarifications."
The nuclear agency continues to verify the non-diversion of nuclear material declared by Iran under its Safeguards Agreement. However, Iran is not providing the necessary cooperation to enable us to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities, and therefore to conclude that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities, Amano said. (Emphasis added)
Actually, they're not saying that.
Iran is hiding the requested (and required under the treaty) access to various sites to verify that they are not using nuclear materials for military purposes. In short, Iran is saying "Oh, we're innocent." While not allowing the required checks.
Parchin is a military base, it is not under the jurisdiction of the IAEA as it is not a nuclear site. They have allowed the IAEA in there before and it is being negotiated to allow them in there.
You may want to correct your statement, or your thinking, in light of this information. On the other hand, I guess you'd better not try.
He expressed hope that, as a result of IAEA's intensified dialogue with Iran, concrete, tangible results will be achieved without further delay.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Well, as incredible as it may sound, America and her allies still need 'justification' to actually began a military campaign. 9/11 justified the Afghanistan invasion of 2001, the WMD lie justified the Iraq invasion of 2003, intervention in Libya in 2011 was justifed on humanitarian grounds. Justification is required because of international politics.
And that was part of my point. Because of Iran's hiding, no one knows for certain. The change is that the world no longer believes that Iran is not building Nuclear weapons, they've moved to "We can't prove it, either way. But it looks like a problem."
The IAEA has no proof either, just speculation. I don't know why Iran is playing this game, but until I see 100% proof, I see no reason for the sanctions or another Iraqesque war.
Originally posted by Ghost375
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
Well, as incredible as it may sound, America and her allies still need 'justification' to actually began a military campaign. 9/11 justified the Afghanistan invasion of 2001, the WMD lie justified the Iraq invasion of 2003, intervention in Libya in 2011 was justifed on humanitarian grounds. Justification is required because of international politics.
Actually, they don't need justification. They can do whatever the f they want.
What are you, or the rest of the dumbed down masses, going to do about it?
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
So this current debate between America and Israel is nothing more than an illusion to make the masses think America is in fact trying to avoid war.
None of us seem to know the reason why Iran is acting the way they are, but they must know that continued non-cooperation with their treaty's inspectors is increasing the fear and making war more likely.
they are also being very suspect and are just feeding the MSM with doubts.
Now this is an honest question, from the heart, that I really hope someone can answer. Can someone give me another reason for their behavior besides insanity (wild recklessness) or weapons preparation they don't want exposed?
If any one of you, were the only name on that list..........that is all the justification I need to rain death and destruction.
...I hope puts such a deep fear in its people and its rulers that the mere sight of an American flag gives their children nightmares and fills their mothers and fathers despair.
If their is not one person left standing in that whole country, if we make a direct hit on their nuclear facility and it causes the slow and painful deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iranians, I will make popcorn and watch their suffering with glee in my heart.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by superman2012
Thank you very much, I was hoping for some answer that didn't lead directly to a nightmare. I suppose we will have to make sure every country gets one. They'll all want one and we can't really say "no." Then will we have peace? (Rhetorical question)
Anyway, thanks again, I appreciate it.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by SplitInfinity
OK...without preconceived notions...lets just look at the facts.
Iran has broken the NPT in just about every way and thus it must either change it's current behavior and abide by the Treaty or face Sanctions and possible Military action.
Iran has admitted to building Tens of Thousands of Centrifuges to enrich Uranium and there is only one reason why this many centrifuges would be built and that is to enrich enough Uranium to Weapons Grade for use in a Bomb.
Iran is currently being protected from Israeli Bombing of it's Nuclear Sites by the United States as the U.S. has forbidden Israel to Bomb sites that would shoot radioactive Material into the Air and Poison much of the Middle East.
Iran has made threats to close the Strait of Hormuz as well as Destroy Israel. If Iran either attempts to Close the Strait or declare they have Nuclear Weapons...the U.S. Military will be forced to go in.
These are the REALITIES....Iran has made it's own bed. Split Infinity