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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Wonderer2012
OK...without preconceived notions...lets just look at the facts.
Iran has broken the NPT in just about every way and thus it must either change it's current behavior and abide by the Treaty or face Sanctions and possible Military action.
Iran has admitted to building Tens of Thousands of Centrifuges to enrich Uranium and there is only one reason why this many centrifuges would be built and that is to enrich enough Uranium to Weapons Grade for use in a Bomb.
Iran is currently being protected from Israeli Bombing of it's Nuclear Sites by the United States as the U.S. has forbidden Israel to Bomb sites that would shoot radioactive Material into the Air and Poison much of the Middle East.
Iran has made threats to close the Strait of Hormuz as well as Destroy Israel. If Iran either attempts to Close the Strait or declare they have Nuclear Weapons...the U.S. Military will be forced to go in.
These are the REALITIES....Iran has made it's own bed. Split Infinity
Originally posted by ronnieray123
Politics be damned, I do not need any news organization or any politician to give me a reason for justification to destroy Iran. They have already given me plenty of reason on their own. Some of you people have really short memories, or worse yet if your American you really have no concern for your fellow citizens. Well I do, and my memory is not short. Let me give you now 52 reasons that justify Iran receiving a long overdue punishment, a punishment that I hope puts such a deep fear in its people and its rulers that the mere sight of an American flag gives their children nightmares and fills their mothers and fathers despair.
Thomas L. Ahern, Jr.
Clair Cortland Barnes
William E. Belk
Robert O. Blucker
Donald J. Cooke
William J. Daugherty
Robert Englemann
William Gallegos
Bruce W. German
Duane L. Gillette
Alan B. Golancinksi
John E. Graves
Joseph M. Hall
Kevin J. Hermening
Donald R. Hohman
Leland J. Holland
Michael Howland.
Charles A. Jones, Jr
Malcolm Kalp
Moorhead C. Kennedy Jr.
William F. Keough, Jr.
Steven W. Kirtley
Eric M. Feldman
Kathryn L. Koob
Frederick Lee Kupke
L. Bruce Laingen
Steven Lauterbach
Gary E. Lee
Paul Edward Lewis
John W. Limbert, Jr
James M. Lopez,
John D. McKeel, Jr.
Michael J. Metrinko
Jerry J. Miele
Staff Sgt. Michael E. Moeller
Bert C. Moore
Richard H. Morefield
Paul M. Needham, Jr
Robert C. Ode
Gregory A. Persinger
Jerry Plotkin
Regis Ragan
David M. Roeder
Barry M. Rosen
William B. Royer, Jr
Thomas E. Schaefer
Charles W. Scott
Donald A. Sharer
Rodney V. (Rocky) Sickmann
Joseph Subic, Jr.
Elizabeth Ann Swift,
Victor L. Tomseth
Phillip R. Ward
You do not take my countrymen hostage and think for a moment that I will forgive and forget. You do not light my flag on fire and call my countrymen evil and wish death upon them and not expect that when the opportunity presents itself I will not rejoice at your demise.
I do not forgive
I do not forget
I remember the people of Iran's behavior so do not tell me about the innocent people of Iran and how war will punish them without justification. I would shoot them myself, and anyone who gets in my way if I had the chance to do so.
You pacifist my not be willing to stand up and say, "Not with one of my countrymen will you get away with that", but know this.....If any one of you, were the only name on that list..........that is all the justification I need to rain death and destruction.
I have waited 30 years for paybacks and whatever the reason is that my country uses to bring Iran to its knees is just fine with me. It does not matter to me even the slightest if they are pursuing nukes or not, Iran and I have an old score to settle.
If their is not one person left standing in that whole country, if we make a direct hit on their nuclear facility and it causes the slow and painful deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iranians, I will make popcorn and watch their suffering with glee in my heart. Then I will know that those responsible for holding my countrymen for over 400 days were punished for their actions.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Wonderer2012
OK...without preconceived notions...lets just look at the facts.
Iran has broken the NPT in just about every way and thus it must either change it's current behavior and abide by the Treaty or face Sanctions and possible Military action.
Iran has admitted to building Tens of Thousands of Centrifuges to enrich Uranium and there is only one reason why this many centrifuges would be built and that is to enrich enough Uranium to Weapons Grade for use in a Bomb.
Iran is currently being protected from Israeli Bombing of it's Nuclear Sites by the United States as the U.S. has forbidden Israel to Bomb sites that would shoot radioactive Material into the Air and Poison much of the Middle East.
Iran has made threats to close the Strait of Hormuz as well as Destroy Israel. If Iran either attempts to Close the Strait or declare they have Nuclear Weapons...the U.S. Military will be forced to go in.
These are the REALITIES....Iran has made it's own bed. Split Infinity
Originally posted by munkey66
reply to post by ronnieray123
So my history or maths must be screwed up
I always thought 1953 Iranian coup d'état (operation Ajax) happened before November 4, 1979, to January 20, 1981.
Britain (Churchill) and the United States (Eisenhower administration) decided to overthrow Iran's government
and what punishment did Churchill and Eisenhower get?
Originally posted by ronnieray123
Originally posted by munkey66
reply to post by ronnieray123
So my history or maths must be screwed up
I always thought 1953 Iranian coup d'état (operation Ajax) happened before November 4, 1979, to January 20, 1981.
Britain (Churchill) and the United States (Eisenhower administration) decided to overthrow Iran's government
Seems you did not read what I wrote, or your comprehension skills need a little work.
I do not care about politics. I do not care if they have nukes or not.
I only care that they took 52 of my countrymen hostage and were not punished for it. nothing more, nothing less.
You can tell me all the what about this and what about that you want,,,,it matters not.
I am telling you exactly why I advocate their destruction and you reply to me with garbage that has nothing to do with anything I said.
If a person takes another person hostage, I advocate them getting a bullet in the head,,,,,,,,,,,,when it is a nation that does it, then guess what I advocate
Originally posted by ronnieray123
Yes i can, yes I do.
I saw the citizens celebrating the capture and detention of my countrymen, they as well are guilty and entitled to punishment.
I do not need any other reason than that. You can say I do, and you could keep repeating that over and over right until I pressed the button that sent death on a one way ride to Iran....then I would turn and say "What was that, I was a little busy and didn't catch what you said?"
Some innocent Iranians will die..............but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
I can only hope that the next time someone gets stupid ideas like that, someone speaks up and tells them it might not be such a good idea and maybe it is better not to do that.
You are funny telling me I can not advocate revenge, because that it what it is revenge, when you can plainly see that is exactly what I am doing.
As I said, I would destroy that nation myself if I was offered the chance to push the button with no more remorse than I have for swatting a mosquito.
Time to think about your well being is BEFORE you take my countrymen hostage, not after. Now it is too late for them, and it looks like I am going to be able to finally celebrate the downfall of Iran.
The citizens of Iran to took my countrymen hostage, the leaders of Iran refused to secure their immediate release. They can all die, no use for any of them
Originally posted by munkey66
and what punishment did Churchill and Eisenhower get?
Originally posted by ronnieray123
Originally posted by munkey66
reply to post by ronnieray123
So my history or maths must be screwed up
I always thought 1953 Iranian coup d'état (operation Ajax) happened before November 4, 1979, to January 20, 1981.
Britain (Churchill) and the United States (Eisenhower administration) decided to overthrow Iran's government
Ignore me.....and I go away
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by flice
OK...to be fair...lets look at Israel.
Right now Israel finds itself in a position where it has a country...IRAN...that has promised to wipe it off the map.
Israel did not sign the NPT because it had the Tech. to develop Reactors and Weapons on it's own. Although there is a glitch in this as the U.S. provided Israel Weapons Grade Fuel shortly after Israel was attacked by Egypt again.
Regardless of the issues over Settlement Building have been handled poorly by Israel but if it were the U.S. that was being attacked by Rockets every day like Israel was and still is...the U.S. Military would OBLITERATE the Threat. So if anything...Israel has acted less violently than we would.
Since Israel did not sign the NPT it does not have to abide by the Treaties Rules...IRAN did not have the Tech ability to build Reactors so it signed the Treaty and bought the Reactors and Tech. Because Iran did not build this Tech on it's own it must abide by the Treaty.
Israel has been told to STAY OUT OF THE COMING FIGHT! The reason for this is the Secret U.S. Military to Iranian Military Talks on going. The Old Religious Guard will soon come to a moment where it will be threatened by it's own Pro-Democracy Movement. It will do whatever it takes to stay in power such as Order it's navy to Close the Strait of Hormuz or attack Israel with Missiles. They will order this because they will want to portray the U.S. as a Zionist Controlled Military bent on the destruction of Iran. The Military Talks are designed to let the Iranian Military and Navy in particular KNOW that if the Navy is ordered to close the Strait and refuses the Old Religious Guards Order...it will not be attacked by the U.S. and by standing down...will allow the Pro-Democracy Group to Take over the Iranian Government. Thus the Navy will become the protectors of a New Free Iran...as will any other Iranian Military Group that Stands Down. This will NOT WORK IF ISRAEL IS INVOLVED. The Iranians would FIGHT and Israel has been told under NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS IT TO ATTACK IRAN! Split Infinity