Israel is thinking of using EMP / nuclear weapons against Iran

wow this is like the 20th newspaper confirming what? NOTHING! israel is acting like a little brother with an older brother standing behind making fun of other kids, i hope they go to war, and i hope we stay the FUG out of it and watch them get OWNED! but its ok we can just get together again and give them some land they dont own again, no big deal

Iran would never nuke israel thats the muslim holy land they would be destroyed by all the muslims in the world if they did

Didn't Israel used all kinds of cyber warfare tactics disabling the Syrian SAM sites?(or is this a fairy tail)
Like they used Stuxnet, isn't it easier to apply something like that to disable their defenses and communications?

Originally posted by jerseychannelislands
Iran would never nuke israel thats the muslim holy land they would be destroyed by all the muslims in the world if they did

It's about bringing on the 12th IMAM I believe. You need to study various religions more. It's all about the temple mount.

Same for the Jews. The need to rebuild the temple for the last time.

Iran would drop a nuke on the site as quick as the jews would.

Sir, you need to go read more.

If Jerusalem is nuked. The Israelis will nuke Mecca and Medina.

reply to post by HumanitiesLastHope


War is not about winning.

Everyone loses in a war, especially the victor.

Please discard this juvenile mindset and think about just what you're advocating. Why should the Iranian people have to suffer at the hands of the IDF?

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam

Originally posted by Vatikakie
Do anyone on this site think for a second Russia or maybe china will allow a nuke to explode anywhere outside Israeli space. That thing will start a chain reaction way bigger than we want to acknowlege. And if anyone here is naive enough to believe Israel will be allowed to use a nuke in whatever way without being attacked by the same means is living in Lala land.

This post is on point, and what I've tried to avoid in all my previous posts.

My personal belief is that they both will tolerate a nuclear attack on Iran as long as it's limited and assuming the US has a minor or less role. I think the problem then comes with a chem/bio attack from Syria on Israel in defense of Iran. In my opinion, they would be forced to nuke Damascus, and perhaps Allepo. Once this happens all bets are off. My greatest fear is that Obama will be in office. He hasn't been able to even negotiate with his left sock. Once Damascus is hit, I believe Putin has no choice but to take out Televiv and Jeruselum.

Once the temple mount is melted you better kiss the ones you love and say goodbye. Obama's no Kennedy. He doesn't have the brains, stature, or grits to save us. All he's concerned about is himself. I'm really not trying to be political, but I believe the only one that has a chance of saving the north half of the world is Romney.

Short of that (negotiated settlement), I'm not sure what happens. It seems as of now China has sufficient contracts in place that it sees no value add in becoming involved.

And Russia has even more of some resources then the US; as well as the pipelines to the west. However, they might be motivated by what now seems control of Iran and ESPECIALLY Syria. This on top of Iraq, Afghanistan, to mention a few. But, I still don't see this as enough from them to launch an ICBM. I think the one thing that would bring them in is if we get directly involved in the assualt on Iran and again ESPECIALLY Syria.

Syria is the lynchpin. Russia views it as thier one stronghold in the middle east. And above all else, I believe they would be willing to fight for i, perhaps at all cost.

So you are saying it's OK for israel to nuke 70 million people because it's believed they might at some point try and build a ( singular eg one of 1 ) bomb, that is nuts. israel firsters are busily trying to equate Zionist regime with the whole of israel and every jew that they say Iran wants to wipe off of the earth, the one fly in that ointment is the Jewish population of Iran second only to israel in the middle east, how come they are still alive, wouldn't they be the first to go. They like living there so much that they refused bribes by israel to leave

China gets over half of it's oil from Iran and is developing the fields in the south of iran, i'm sure that if israel were to nuke those fields china would be extremely pissed off.

AS for Syria China and Russia saw what happened to Libya with it's so called humanitarian mission by NATO and the thousands of civilians killed by NATO, NATO claimed that they didn't kill a single civilian by the expediency of marking everyone killed as a terrorist be it man women or child. Gaddafi was generally loved by his people, when he was finally caught the people defending him were old women as all the young men had been killed, a hated dictator doesn't inspire old women to take up arms and defend him. Libya is a hellhole now and Russia and China don't want to see Syria end up like that, no matter how bad it is now it can get worse.

And isn't it Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria that comprise most of the free Syrian army, shouldn't America be fighting with Assad against Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria.
So you have the absurd situation where in Afghanistan it's Al-Qaeda insurgents that American troops are fighting yet in Syria America is supporting Al-Qaeda?????

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That Is not going to happen.

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam

Originally posted by jerseychannelislands
Iran would never nuke israel thats the muslim holy land they would be destroyed by all the muslims in the world if they did

It's about bringing on the 12th IMAM I believe. You need to study various religions more. It's all about the temple mount.

Same for the Jews. The need to rebuild the temple for the last time.

Iran would drop a nuke on the site as quick as the jews would.

Sir, you need to go read more.

How about the Christians who want the Jews to convert and die for Christ to come back, and then you have the Jews who believe that everything in the world should belong to them and that everyone else should ether have the courtesy to disappear, die or at a pinch if they insist in staying around become there slaves.

Muslims want everyone to convert to Islam

Christians want everyone to convert to Christianity

Jews want everyone to die or disappear so they can have the world and everything in it to themselves.

So the jews are actually the only group who want to see everyone else die without trying to convert them, after all how can you convert an animal into a human?

Originally posted by bjarneorn

Originally posted by intrptr
Unless you plan on destroying the whole world anyway, the fallout signature from any, and I mean ANY dirty bomb, fission device or secret poisoning of wells with medical waste will lead right back to the owner like DNA.

Oh my god, how childish ...

You mean childish like a dictator? The worlds ruling despots are basically childlike. Or maybe you haven't tried to reason out the infantile direction the world is heading?

Originally posted by astrafax
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I just love the overwhelming humanitarian response to the Syrian problems by israel, dose it set up camps for the poor Syrian refugees, NO what israel dose is dig ditches, plant land mines, put up lines of razor wire, draft in snipers, planes and armored units. Nice.

Israels explanation for doing this was to stop terrorists (eg Syrian civilians) from getting across the border, what a bunch of paranoid psycho nut jobs, Ive seen more humanitarian instincts in a lamp post.

You obviously have no clue what your talking about.

Do you have any idea how many innocent Israeli civilians have been killed/injured as a result of terrorist attacks that originated in Syrian territory?

If you were living in similar circumstances, would you advocate that your government allow refugees into your country knowing that some of them could pose a threat to you and your family?

Humanitarian isntincts? Give me a #ing break. It's a war zone.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "EMP fallout"? Those are two different things.

I wasn't too sure about that question either. The whole idea of EMP is new and strange to me. I understood that it disabled anything electronic, but wasn't quite sure if it was a danger to humans on the ground. It sounds like you know a lot about the physical effects of an EMP bomb. I never really looked into it until I read this thread. Thanks for enlightening me about the affects.

I have to say honestly that a lot of people have a tremendous lack of conviction a motivation of cowardice and self preservation and while I'm not a fan of Israel per say if the Jews have any point at all it's that the parallels to Hitler/WW2 are undeniable. People who let a philosophy they could NEVER live within go on and on and on to avoid war... until the whole thing is so blown up the whole world suffers as a result.

All this Zionism nonsense and anti Israel sentiment amounts to 2 things

!: Islamic posters learning to use the media (fairly as the Jews have done for way longer) to shift public opinion

2: Self preservation in feeling like "with Israel gone we will be safe and they are the far easier to deal with if the west turns on them"

Almost EVERY single person singling out Israeli actions above anyone else is a hypocrite, Americans are the worst offenders by number followed by Russia and China/ More people will be shot in Detroit this year in the street than Palestinians will die at the hands of Israelis. SO CUT OUT THE SANCTIMONIOUS LIES AND GET REAL

All the anti Israel talk in the end is FEAR of Islam, a desire for Americans and Europeans to stop spending on war to enjoy LUXURIES again, a better economy the deathly Fear of the potential for WW3 if Russia and China step in on top of it all... But this is a joke

Because just like NOT stopping Hitler led to WW2 weather or not you throw Israel under the bus isn't going to stop WW3 or the rising tide of Islam

There are 2 choices... stop Islam now or stop it later. Okay... China is Atheist/Buddhist, Russia is largely Atheist, japan is largely Atheist Buddhist, Canada is half Atheist (let's add agnostic under the title of Atheist by the way) Europe and America move in the exact same direction

All moral arguments are MOOT. If a United Islamic front forms and they keep exporting Islam in a peoples war against the world... NONE of our lives will be okay, Islam will be the world religion, they will be the Power center of the world one day

Jews are going extinct, Israel by and large is Western, even most Jews that claim "Judaism" as religion... have xmas trees because Xmas is more "Fun" than Hanukkah your talking about an 80% inter marriage rate in the Western world

Demographics in a global world is doing to Judaism what no nation has ever succeeded in doing, ending the religion step by step... 25 Million people that DO NOT convert divided into 6 Billion is close enough to zero...

We can go on and on about bankers and plots and all crazy conspiracies... the REALITY is, one day we will wake up and the area by populace will have happen to it exactly what went on in South Africa, it will no longer be jewish at all by demographic and they will give away their nukes and it will be over NOT A GLOBAL THREAT it was in fact Israel that helped SA get Nukes and in the end they were given up because of the real situation there.

ISLAM however

Well, CHOOSE.

Do you like freedom of religion? Rights for Women? Gay marriage? Having a beer? Good Movies? A sex life, being able to be single? Designer clothing? Eating what you want?

Do you think it would be nice to have Stem cell treatments when your older? Do you care about a space program and understand there are other worlds? Do you value the Internet?

Then Choose. This IS NOT ISRAEL vs IRAN. THIS IS SCIENCE VS THEOCRACY

We can go on all day about who sucks as human beings and why... plenty to be said about everyone,. But the realities are DEMOGRAPHIC realities. The Jews are already done... Islam will dominate the VOTE in your nations one day

Frankly above i said words like, CONVICTION and COWARDICE

I'll take Death over a theocratic world. I don't care if the method is "peaceful" I'd RATHER have WAR, my FUTURE MY KIDS FUTURE IS AT STAKE. The EASTERN and WESTERN worlds above capitalism and fascism and socialism and democracy... are ALL LEAVING SUPERSTITION BEHIND at varying paces.

So stop with the WHY and the RIGHT and WRONG nonsense

Kill for Stem cells, Kill for a Space program which ensures the survival of the species by acquisition of resources and getting our eggs out of one basket, Kill to be Free of Dogma once and for all, Kill so your daughters don't get marginalized, Kill to prevent another dark ages at the peak of Humanities assent from stupidity, Kill for the Internet and acquisition of Human knowledge for ALL, Kill for a life of your own

Much can be said of human rights everywhere...much work is needed to be done

Frankly the ultimate doom, the ultimate loss of Freedom,would be very simple... Forced marriage and Needless and demanded constant birth practices that will doom us all something Islam delivers. Your DEAD if you go the road of peace, Demographics are Math, when abortion is GONE, when marriages are forced.when technologies that these fools would say are an afront to some fictional diety are done, when space exploration halts because Earth is all there is lol... YOU ARE DEAD

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam

Originally posted by BewilderedandAmused

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam

Originally posted by jt327gir
as an alternative to EMP weapons, the carbon fiber weapons to disrupt the power grid long enough