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Originally posted by DataWraith
Whether a nuke is fired or even an EMP triggered both are WARCRIMES according to convention and both uses are unjustified and BOTH are indiscriminate against CIVILIAN targets even if you claim a 'little collateral' is ok to prevent further conflict.
And even if you detonate a nuke in air the radiation CANNOT be controlled, and anybody who thinks so does us all a favour and remove yourself from the Human genepool by drinking your koolaid and watching your government winning the war on TERRA ( its no longer a war on terror but it now encompasses the entire planet in its vagueness) on your TV.
Most of the people in any wartorn or 'undemocratic' country are innocent of the crimes of its government and live the same lives as everyone here, all want to see tommorow.
And besides why shouldn't Iran have a nuclear weapon after all Israel, the US and others claim its a detterant and the countries that have them just want to nuke those that dont so why not all countries either have at least one or simply get rid of them all?
Originally posted by bjarneorn
Originally posted by Vatikakie
Both of these nations are incapable of putting up a fighting force, on a foreign soil ...
Probably the most naive statement I've seen in the last 10 years.
Originally posted by bjarneorn
Originally posted by DataWraith
Whether a nuke is fired or even an EMP triggered both are WARCRIMES ...
Another totally childish comment ... what's the warcrime?
What is wrong with you guys, you can't smell BS here? Everyone going into frency over a completely and utterly impossible thing.
This is someones "sick" joke, taken from "The Matrix". With the simple minded imagination, that en EMP pulse is some device you can just pick up and shoot. It isn't ... Israel, would harm itself just as much as it would harm Iran ... and vice versa. If Iran is thinking of an EMP pulse, it would also harm itself just as much. Any EMP strike on either Israel or Iran, will wipe out the other as well.
And you guys didn't see this?
geesh ... it's BS, get over it.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
The answer to your non-sense has already been stated and is perfectly clear. The moment Iran builds a usable nuke, Israel is toast. Then what? oh wise one????
Originally posted by PGTWEED
If Jerusalem is nuked. The Israelis will nuke Mecca and Medina.
Originally posted by astrafax
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
Originally posted by jerseychannelislands
Iran would never nuke israel thats the muslim holy land they would be destroyed by all the muslims in the world if they did
It's about bringing on the 12th IMAM I believe. You need to study various religions more. It's all about the temple mount.
Same for the Jews. The need to rebuild the temple for the last time.
Iran would drop a nuke on the site as quick as the jews would.
Sir, you need to go read more.
How about the Christians who want the Jews to convert and die for Christ to come back, and then you have the Jews who believe that everything in the world should belong to them and that everyone else should ether have the courtesy to disappear, die or at a pinch if they insist in staying around become there slaves.
Muslims want everyone to convert to Islam
Christians want everyone to convert to Christianity
Jews want everyone to die or disappear so they can have the world and everything in it to themselves.
So the jews are actually the only group who want to see everyone else die without trying to convert them, after all how can you convert an animal into a human?
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
I'd have no problem pushing the button myself, and living with the consequences, so someone else doesn't have to. No problem.
Originally posted by WeRpeons
reply to post by intrptr
I'm not sure what you mean by "EMP fallout"? Those are two different things.
I wasn't too sure about that question either. The whole idea of EMP is new and strange to me. I understood that it disabled anything electronic, but wasn't quite sure if it was a danger to humans on the ground. It sounds like you know a lot about the physical effects of an EMP bomb. I never really looked into it until I read this thread. Thanks for enlightening me about the affects.
Originally posted by happyzodiac
I would like to know if the EMP is area specific. From border to border and no seepage over the surrounding countries?. What about the American or other foreign ships in the area. Will they be effected???. I didn't think that the Iranians have at this moment a nuclear reactor on line.. If, however, they did have one then yes there would be a problem and radiation problems will happen which is not a good thing.
Originally posted by CrisMajor
I seem to remember Iran denying IAEA access to their nuclear facilities when asked. All the IAEA wanted was to make sure that stuff was really safe.
Iran denying an INTERNATIONAL company access to a "civilian" nuclear power plant runs up a little red flag for me.
I could be wrong though.
>Implying of course that IAEA isn't lying
Also, inb4 people pull the "When in doubt, deny the argument and pass it of as a 'BIG FAT LIE'" without citing proof of said lie, as a certain someone on this thread has done. Twice, I believe.
But that's just my two cents.
Crap, now I'm two cents short.
Originally posted by ALF88
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
The answer to your non-sense has already been stated and is perfectly clear. The moment Iran builds a usable nuke, Israel is toast. Then what? oh wise one????
Lets assume for a moment that they are building one, and lets assume that they use it against Israel.
1. One bomb doesn't make Israel "toast", at least not military wise!
2. Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons and they would use them against Iran and probably take the rest of the world with them.
Iran's leaders might be crazy, but they are not stupid.
But apart from that there is no EVIDENCE for anything you and your Zionist friends are claiming. Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, and the whole world knows it, even Israels messianic nutjobs Netanjahu and Barak.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
reply to post by astrafax
So you are saying it's OK for israel to nuke 70 million people because it's believed they might at some point try and build a ( singular eg one of 1 ) bomb
Unfortunately, my short answer is yes. I believe they are that dangerous to the world. They are religous zealots and will not be detered. After the statements they have made, I'd have no problem pushing the button myself, and living with the consequences, so someone else doesn't have to. No problem.
Originally posted by ALF88
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
I'd have no problem pushing the button myself, and living with the consequences, so someone else doesn't have to. No problem.
People like you are the reason why we have wars in this world, why people still have to suffer. Your post shows nothing but ignorance and hatred.
Originally posted by ALF88
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam
Your post shows nothing but ignorance and hatred.
My post shows concious deliberation, worldwide awareness and love for all, as well as cognitive reasoning that all men are not created equal in the sense of thier awareness of reality and thier reactions to negative input.
Some folks grasp on reality is simply not the same as ordinary people.
You want to line up behind these folks, thats your choice. Take your pick: David Koresh, Timothy McVey, lie Manson, etc.
I could go on but the point is you may/or my not be delusional, but the leaders you are backing clearly are.
They deny reality for Christs sake.
So, there you are. I'm ignorant and hateful. You need a LARGE mirror my friend.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam1. It does if that bomb melts Jerusalem.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam2. I don't agree with your assumptions.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam3. Irans leaders are both stupid and crazy.
Originally posted by Yosemite Sam4. First I am not a zionist but a Colorado ian....
Originally posted by Yosemite SamLastly, they have been enriching uranium for 5 years now. This is not necessary for power generation or medical purposes. So, you are correct, the whole world knows it. So, now it's just a matter of who does what, when.
Originally posted by Yosemite SamPeople aren't stupid, you dumbass. It's been blatantly clear what they are doing and where they are going for a decade now. But you put your head back in the sand now. Someone will be along to tell you when it's over.....maybe.