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Study: Recovery For Burger-Flippers Only

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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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Study: Recovery For Burger-Flippers Only

A study by the National Employment Law Project suggests that the vast majority of lost jobs since 2008 have been "replaced" by lower paying jobs.

What a surprise.

What's your favorite burger?


According to new analysis of unemployment data by the National Employment Law Project, while 60 percent of the jobs lost during the 2008-2009 financial crisis were in middle income occupations, the vast majority – 58 percent – of jobs created under President Obama are low-wage. Those jobs include “retail sales, food preparation, home health and customer service.”

“The recovery continues to be skewed toward low-wage jobs, reinforcing the rise in inequality and America’s deficit of good jobs,” said the author of the study, Annette Bernhardt. “While there’s understandably a lot of focus on getting employment back to pre-recession levels, the quality of jobs is rapidly emerging as a second front in the struggling recovery.”

Just half of US adults are currently middle class.



supporting article with more links:

(MoneyWatch) Reflecting its eroding economic fortunes, the American middle-class is often described as having been "hollowed out." New employment data suggest that isn't just a figure of speech.

Although 60 percent of the jobs lost following the 2008 financial crisis were in mid-wage occupations such as construction, manufacturing and office management, relatively few of those positions have come back, according to the National Employment Law Project. Instead, most of the jobs created during the U.S. economy's fitful recovery -- 58 percent -- have been in low-wage professions including retail sales, food preparation, home health and customer service, the New York-based advocacy group said Friday in a report.
During recovery, most new jobs offer low wages


Who will people vote for now?





posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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learn a trade and work hard.

at least its an honest living, you are your own boss and people will be forced to respect you, rich or poor if they want your expertise and time.

that or join them after college and try to your hardest to keep your integrity, honor and strength while paddling against an enormous tide of greed, shallowness, arrogance, selflishness and inhumanity that is the corporate world.

it is quite a challenge to remain human if you chose the wrong corporation.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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Oh I see, so it's the President that is in charge of what companies hire for, and what they pay their employees. I been going at this whole raise thing all wrong. I shouldn't be asking my boss, I should be asking Obama for a raise cause according to you he's the one that holds all these corporations purse strings.



When will you learn that the corporations are the ones that aren't allowing economic recovery to happen?



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen


Who will people vote for now?





The people surely wont vote for the republicans who want to get rid of minimum wage so that companies can have us working at Chinese slave wages at 20 hours a day with no benefits , no health-care, no workers rights, no on the job safety protections or OSHA or EPA regulations whatsoever.

Who will the people vote for now? NOT THE REPUBLICANS if those folks are American workers or of the American midfdle-class who care about their future and the future of their children and grandchildren.

And dont even ASK what the republicans intend to do to the poor... YIKES!!!!!!!

They seem to have the interest of the KOCH Brothers (damn those DIRTY MONEY bribes) in mind for America. And it AINT GOOD for anyone but the SUPER-wealthy!!



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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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In case an explanation is required: A tribute to job growth for the middle class.
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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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The Market seems better.



The last time the stock market was this high, the Great Recession had just started, and stocks were pointed toward a headlong descent.


Market milestone: Stocks return to late 2007 level

Corporations seem to be doing well.



Exxon Mobil reported a quarterly profit of nearly $16 billion Thursday -- the highest ever for a U.S. corporation.


Exxon reports record profit of nearly $16 billion

And the Banks seem to be in funds.



The Big Five today are about twice as large as they were a decade ago relative to the economy, meaning trouble at a major bank would leave the government with the same Hobson’s choice it faced in 2008


Big Banks: Now Even Too Bigger to Fail


If you are a Big Share Holder, a Corporation or a Bank, then you ae doing very well, thank you.

Yet NO trickle down.


So, YES lets put the Grand Oligarchy Party back in.


"GOP, milking the populace since 1981"



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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Well half the people won't vote for Romney for that reason, the northern half. Now the southern half will gladly vote for him for that reason. They already have voted for Chinese wages when they pass right to work laws. They do this because they believe Jesus will let them win the Mega Millions and they don't want to pay taxes on that.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 10:27 PM
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With the looming pesence of ACA and tax increases, companies are holding onto their funds. There is no hiring because owners don't know what they'll be paying in a few months.

The constant battle to raise taxes has created an environment where companies (large and small) can't expand because of the level of uncertainty.

If Obama wins, get used to high unemployment, economic stagnation, QE3, QE4, QE5. . . . .

If Romney wins, you'll see release of capital and hiring and new growth.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Wrong you will have the same anemic economy we had with Bush. The only difference there won't be a booming housing market to cover it up. But don't worry I am sure someone will find a box for you in your Romneyville.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 10:50 PM
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I can see job growth for sure with Romney,

But who wants to work for 2 bucks and hour?

Not me, no sir, not me.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 11:00 PM
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reply to post by KeliOnyx
 


You both can respond with hyperbole, but the fact remains. Business owners don't know, won't know what they'll be paying in a few months time. This level of uncertainty creates a "wait and see" approach to hiring, expansion and creation of new enterprise.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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And what exact certainty do you think Romney will give us? That is right the same level of certainty Bush did, hell he let business write their own policy and he still had anemic growth in every sector except housing. That was with two tax cuts that were unpaid for and created damn near zero growth. And an exploding trade deficit. Romney talks a big game about getting tough on China the fact is Obama has logged more complaints in his first term with the WTO than Bush did in two.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
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And what exact certainty do you think Romney will give us?


Easy.

Obama wins; we get ACA, higher taxes. Businesses expand less. Businesses grow less.

Romney wins; ACA gets repealed, no tax increases. Businesses reinvest in themselves, hire and expand.

Business wants to make money. Business can't make money if they don't grow, increase their market "footprint".
High taxes, additional costs brought about by ACA and the Obama doctrine would inhibit growth.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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The funding needs to come from somewhere. Competitive advantage in the market place allows for expansion.

Lower costs will improve bottom lines and create expansion.

If it is going to come from within, then removing award wages is a way to promote growth.

Just because no one knows what will happen in a few weeks let alone a few months does not mean that a strong plan could not be implemented.

There is no benefit to the worker to have lower pay, unless the cost of living is reduced to support it.

So where does the required capital come from to enable expansion?

Oh and don't forget demand. This will ultimately drive the requirement for growth.

Which policy is going to promote that?

Republican. So the end result will be a utopic situation with low wages and low cost of living.

Hang on isn't that like China?

The system will need a very well planned out rebuild to make this happen




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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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the sad answer to your question-

They will vote for the guy who has increased entitlements across the board. They will vote for bigger government, more welfare, more government assistance, more foodstamps. It theirs, they deserve it, you see?

Spreading wealth destroys it.

Nobody wants to actually work for a living anymore.

We're doomed.




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posted on Sep, 11 2012 @ 02:21 AM
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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
reply to post by HangTheTraitors
 


Well half the people won't vote for Romney for that reason, the northern half. Now the southern half will gladly vote for him for that reason. They already have voted for Chinese wages when they pass right to work laws. They do this because they believe Jesus will let them win the Mega Millions and they don't want to pay taxes on that.



According to BEA data, from 2000 to 2010, the combined real output of the 22 states with Right to Work laws protecting employees from the forced-union-dues provisions in the NLRA grew by 21.8%.

That percentage gain is well over half again as large as the combined real 2000-2010 growth of the 28 states that still do not protect employees from forced union dues.

I think you need to learn what it means to be a right to work state. You do realize non right to work states you have NO choice. You are forced to join a union and pay dues whether you want to or not.

From 2000 to 2010, inflation-adjusted BEA statistics show wage and salary disbursements to employees by private businesses increased by 8.6% in Right to Work states.

“Meanwhile, real private-sector wage and salary disbursements in forced-unionism states fell by 1.8%.”

www.nrtwc.org...

Keep drinking that Kool-Aid



posted on Sep, 12 2012 @ 07:07 AM
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Nobody wants to actually work for a living anymore.


Actually that's not true, people want to work, they just don't want to work for slave wages anymore.

What people on the right don't understand is that people don't want to actually be on food stamps, they don't want to be on welfare, they don't want to be on SSI, they want a job that pays enough for them to do more than just survive.

Business owners have figured out that they can just pay people crap, with no benefits, with no vacations and people will be fine by it, because if there isn't any other option, they can create a slave caste.

The real conspiracy isn't that the Democrats want to give away all your hard earned stuff. The real conspiracy is that the "job creators" have decided that people's labor isn't worth a living.

I work a full time job making minimum wage, and I'm grateful for it. Boy would I like a better paying job, but that's not going to happen. Why isn't it going to happen? Because employers aren't hiring for better jobs in this area. I would love to have a job where I made enough to buy a car, or maybe take a paid vacation. (God knows it's been 15 years since I have had my last paid time off)

Hell, today the working poor won't even take a vacation at all, because like me, they are afraid that if they dare take a two week unpaid vacation, they won't have a job to come back to.

Meanwhile the wealthiest keep getting more wealthy, and are brainwashing the conservative masses into thinking that if they work themselves to death too, and worship the uber wealthy too, they themselves will somehow gain entrance into the upper crust of society.


Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy
we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our great war is a spiritual war. Our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars, but we won't. We're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off.


Tyler Durden ~ Fight Club

They sit there pretending that if you go along with them that they will rain down their wealth upon you with their generosity. But let me clue you in, the wealthy didn't get wealthy by hard work, or by writing a lot of checks. They got wealthy by stepping on the little guy at every opportunity. They got wealthy by using every excuse they can muster to raise prices on goods and services whenever possible. They got wealthy by exploiting every tax loophole in the book, they got wealthy off of YOUR hard work, your sweat, your labor. And if you want a piece of that pie, they call you a socialist, a communist, and a thief.

Every day they go on their media outlet and try and brainwash the simple minded into thinking that if we give them more tax breaks, that will somehow make them less greedy, and somehow they will shower upon those that worshiped them enough wealth and high paying jobs. It's never worked like that.

They have purposely stalled economic recovery at every opportunity, just to try and paint this particular president as a failure. They say his tax policies have created an uncertainty in the market and they can't possibly start hiring more people unless their taxes get lowered, or they keep the tax cuts that aren't paid for that keep piling on more debt that they turn around and blame on this president.

They get their tax cuts, and don't create jobs. They get bailouts and don't create jobs. It makes me wish they would go all Ann Rand on us and leave, that would at least open the marketplace for people to take over and start building this economy back up again. They hold the carrot of job creation out there saying that if we comply with their demands they will make more jobs, we cave, give in to their blackmail, and they still don't keep up with their end of the bargain.

No, the majority of the poor don't want to just leech off the wealthy, they don't just want a handout. They want a job they can go to every day and earn enough to have a decent standard of living. The wealthy just want more money.

I am sick and tired of the FOX News brainwashed masses thinking that the poor are leeches and parasites, they aren't, we want the American dream back, but thanks to those that take Sean Hannity's word as gospel, it's not going to happen. Instead of working for enough to pay for a house, we have to fight just to not starve to death.


Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on: we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances, we guard you while you sleep. Do not
with us.




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