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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
So you believe God is a respecter of persons?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
The thief on the cross was not baptized, he merely affirmed his faith in Jesus as Lord.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
All saved people should be baptized as evidence of their faith, but it's not some ritual that saves a person. That's Roman Catholic ideology.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen
My faith is not based on quibbling over letters.
It's more than about letters. Yah is a different god than Jeh.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
Why did Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, forget to mention Acts 2:38 when he wrote the gospel message in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, Ephesians 2:8-10, and Romans 10:9-10? Was he just having an "off" day? Maybe he didn't get enough sleep?
Why did Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, forget to mention Acts 2:38 when he wrote the gospel message in 1 Corinthians chapter 15
Originally posted by truejew
reply to post by adjensen
This is about more than letters. Yah is the Egyptian moon god. Jeh is the name of the true God. One who believes that Yah was manifest in the flesh, denies that Jeh-sus was manifest in the flesh.
"7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." (2 John 1:7-8 KJV)
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Why did Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, forget to mention Acts 2:38 when he wrote the gospel message in 1 Corinthians chapter 15
Because Acts was written later, and neither the writer of Acts or Paul were there when Peter supposedly said that.
I thought you took a New Testament survey course.
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen
And how does my dismissal of your semantic gyrations amount to my "confessing that Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?" I am growing ever more convinced that those Christ will condemn while they cry "Lord, Lord" are likely to be the people who ignore his grace and commands, while fixating on irrelevant points of theology or personal perspective that they wish to impose on everyone else.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen
And how does my dismissal of your semantic gyrations amount to my "confessing that Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?" I am growing ever more convinced that those Christ will condemn while they cry "Lord, Lord" are likely to be the people who ignore his grace and commands, while fixating on irrelevant points of theology or personal perspective that they wish to impose on everyone else.
Do you claim that the yahwist's who call Jesus a "pig god", "horse god", or "zeus" and the Babylonian Jews who hate Jesus and who's ancestors crucified Him are not antichrist?
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by NOTurTypical
On the one hand, we have these Biblical redactionists, who have turned Matthew 28:19 into a one word verse,
Originally posted by adjensen
and on the other, we have the orthodox church, which apparently "forgot" to add some words to Acts 2:38.
See the illogic there?
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen
And how does my dismissal of your semantic gyrations amount to my "confessing that Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?" I am growing ever more convinced that those Christ will condemn while they cry "Lord, Lord" are likely to be the people who ignore his grace and commands, while fixating on irrelevant points of theology or personal perspective that they wish to impose on everyone else.
Do you claim that the yahwist's who call Jesus a "pig god", "horse god", or "zeus" and the Babylonian Jews who hate Jesus and who's ancestors crucified Him are not antichrist?
I'm claiming that, by judging other people on irrelevant minutia, while ignoring Christ's commandments, you're lumping yourself in with other so-called Christian aberrations like the Westboro Baptish Church.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
Why did Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, forget to mention Acts 2:38 when he wrote the gospel message in 1 Corinthians chapter 15, Ephesians 2:8-10, and Romans 10:9-10? Was he just having an "off" day? Maybe he didn't get enough sleep?
Paul wrote to Christians who were saved. He did not need to explain Acts 2:38 to them.
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen
And how does my dismissal of your semantic gyrations amount to my "confessing that Jesus Christ is not come in the flesh?" I am growing ever more convinced that those Christ will condemn while they cry "Lord, Lord" are likely to be the people who ignore his grace and commands, while fixating on irrelevant points of theology or personal perspective that they wish to impose on everyone else.
Do you claim that the yahwist's who call Jesus a "pig god", "horse god", or "zeus" and the Babylonian Jews who hate Jesus and who's ancestors crucified Him are not antichrist?
I'm claiming that, by judging other people on irrelevant minutia, while ignoring Christ's commandments, you're lumping yourself in with other so-called Christian aberrations like the Westboro Baptish Church.
You did not answer the question.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Why did Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, forget to mention Acts 2:38 when he wrote the gospel message in 1 Corinthians chapter 15
Because Acts was written later, and neither the writer of Acts or Paul were there when Peter supposedly said that.
I thought you took a New Testament survey course.edit on 15-10-2012 by jmdewey60 because: add Bible quote: "For the creation eagerly waits for the revelation of the sons of God." Romans 8:19
Originally posted by truejew
Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by NOTurTypical
On the one hand, we have these Biblical redactionists, who have turned Matthew 28:19 into a one word verse,
No one is removing anything from the true words of Matthew 28:19.
Your added words version, if true, would mean the Apostles' disobeyed Jesus when they baptized in Jesus name.
"The historical riddle is not solved by Matthew 28:19, since, according to a wide scholarly consensus, it is not an authentic saying of Jesus, not even an elaboration of a Jesus-saying on baptism" (The Anchor Bible Dictionary, Vol. 1, 1992, page 585)
Originally posted by adjensen
and on the other, we have the orthodox church, which apparently "forgot" to add some words to Acts 2:38.
See the illogic there?
Who is trying to add words to Acts 2:38?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
Why was Paul laying out the gospel of salvation to saved people?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
And are you implying the Holy Spirit didn't realize people for generations would be reading Ephesians, 1 Corinthians, or Romans?
Originally posted by adjensen
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Unlike the way that you've answered mine all along, eh?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew
If all his letters were only meant "for the church", then why is he explaining or laying out the gospel of salvation? Why is he telling members of the church how to be saved?