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posted on Oct, 7 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by yahushuasaves

I am going strictly from Scripture, not traditions of men.


Interesting that you would use a name for God that comes from mystic Judaism traditions and not from Scripture then.




posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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The tetragrammaton occurs throughout Scripture. While the Samaritans may have had a different pronunciation of the name YHWH, the fact that the beginning of the Messiahs name is YAH, at least has the first half to be pronounced Yah. Since He provided salvation through Yahushua. The second half is more difficult to determine. Looking at the Hebrew letters an AYE sound is more likely. In fact it could even be derived from Aramaic. But to say that it comes from kabbalah (which is not Scriptural at all) might be a stretch if that's where you are heading.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by yahushuasaves
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The tetragrammaton occurs throughout Scripture.


Only where it has been added by men.


Originally posted by yahushuasaves

While the Samaritans may have had a different pronunciation of the name YHWH, the fact that the beginning of the Messiahs name is YAH, at least has the first half to be pronounced Yah.


Yah is the name of the Egyptian moon god and is the same god as Allah. The true name given to Moses was EhJeh. The name Jesus means Jeh, short form of EhJeh, is salvation.
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posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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Yah is the name of the Egyptian moon god and is the same god as Allah. The true name given to Moses was EhJeh. The name Jesus means Jeh, short form of EhJeh, is salvation.


My head hurts.



posted on Oct, 10 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Besides the fact that at least in modern Hebrew there is no "J" sound, how do you explain the verse about the man who's name is the Messiah's name? This messianic prophecy is very particular that the Messiah's name would be Yahushua which translates closer to Joshua in English than Jesus, though even that word has roots in Yahushua.

Zechariah 6:11 "Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set them upon the head of Joshua (Yahushua in the original language) the son of Josedech, the high priest;

Zechariah 6:12 "And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:"

Yahweh is not Allah or a moon God. I know what you are referring to, but the moon God is Allah if anything. I have heard of Islamic culture worshiping the crescent moon.

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posted on Oct, 11 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by yahushuasaves
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Besides the fact that at least in modern Hebrew there is no "J" sound,


There was a "J" sound, just not a written letter "J". The name Yeh, short for EhYeh, was spoken as Jeh.


Originally posted by yahushuasaves

Yahweh is not Allah or a moon God. I know what you are referring to, but the moon God is Allah if anything. I have heard of Islamic culture worshiping the crescent moon.


Yah is the Egyptian moon god.

YAH, THE OTHER EGYPTIAN MOON GOD

The Hallelu-jah god

Iah



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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You certainly have not taken a single course in Hebrew. There is no phonetic sound like a "J".

Hebrew Phonology.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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You certainly have not taken a single course in Hebrew. There is no phonetic sound like a "J".

Hebrew Phonology.


Incorrect.

New Discoveries Prove Ancient J Letter Sound Symbols



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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You just linked someone's arbitrary blog.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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You just linked someone's arbitrary blog.


The writer of that blog has done much research into the name of God and has had public debates against the Yahwehism cult. He knows what he types about.

You may look for ways to deny the name of Jesus if you want, but I never will.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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You just linked someone's arbitrary blog.


The writer of that blog has done much research into the name of God and has had public debates against the Yahwehism cult. He knows what he types about.


How about a link to one of his "debates"? Sounds like a thrill a minute event, but maybe it's worth watching.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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Again, you linked an arbitrary (unsupported) blog.



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Lol! In the link the man said the Greek letter iota (I) has a "J" sound. It's pronounced "yota". The guy neither knows Greek or Hebrew. Here:


, exactly like eta (see above). The name of the letter is pronounced “yota” in Modern Greek. (the reason for the y-sound in front of the letter’s name is due to phonetic transformation of [io] into [yo]).


Greek Alphabet/Phonology.
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posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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"12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." (Acts 4:12-13 KJV)

Is Jesus that name?



posted on Oct, 12 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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Of course His Name is Jesus. But what about the people who said His Name before Latin was invented? Are they doomed? The apostles had no clue about Latin or English, what are they supposed to do? Shall we all only call on the name of Iesous (yay-soos) to be saved since that verse was penned originally in Greek?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Considering the languages are different, do you think He will reject Abraham, Paul, or a medieval believer based on how they said His name? All of them would have called Yahushua differently. Are they not referring to the Messiah?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 12:26 AM
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How do you explain the name Elijah? Or Eliyah in Hebrew. Meaning "The LORD is my God."


Certainly one of the most powerful prophets whose name means this very phrase is evidence enough of YHWH not being false. The moon god theory is very lacking in credibility when even if the Egyptians made note of Yahweh, could it not be reasonable to conclude they deified Him into a god of their own after the plagues of Egypt?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Of course His Name is Jesus.


How could that be though? It goes against what you have been saying.

1. You say there was no "J" sound in Hebrew.

2. You say Yah is God's name and not Jeh. There is no Yah in the name of Jesus, only Jeh.


Originally posted by NOTurTypical

But what about the people who said His Name before Latin was invented?


The name of Jesus is spoken as Jesus in Hebrew also. In Greek it was also spoken as Jesus.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by yahushuasaves
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Considering the languages are different, do you think He will reject Abraham, Paul, or a medieval believer based on how they said His name? All of them would have called Yahushua differently. Are they not referring to the Messiah?



They all knew Him as Jesus. EhJeh is salvation.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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Originally posted by yahushuasaves
How do you explain the name Elijah? Or Eliyah in Hebrew. Meaning "The LORD is my God."


Elijeh.





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