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Hungry homeless man sentenced to 60 days in jail for choking pelican to death

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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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A homeless man was sentenced today to 60 days in jail for choking a pelican to death because he was hungry...

This is a problem because the state would rather this man sit on the street and die of hunger than help him or, in this case, let him eat an animal that it considers more valuable than human life. And while one can argue the civility of slaughtering an animal on a busy street, the fact is we have lost any and all sense of what has made us so successful as a species to begin with.

The fact is if you do anything that goes against the system that you were born into such as hunt your own food instead of going to Mcdonalds, build your own shelter instead of placing yourself into endless debt, sell raw milk or lemonade (while big corporations can lace their drinks with poisons like aspartame), etc. etc. the state will come and throw you in a cage. We as a people have been so domesticated (like cattle) that the act of killing an animal to eat has become foreign to us.

You and I were born into a system of control. You play by the rules or the state puts you in a cage. If you end up homeless you do not build shelter and you do not hunt food. You die on the street like a good animal or be put in a cage.




posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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It really does bother me that they have taken away our right to live off the land, all part of the plan I guess.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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One thing for sure, he won't be hungry for the next two months.

Glass half full.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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So for choking a pelican to death he now gets 3 meals a day for 60 days......are you sure he was choking the poor pelican to eat it??

I think 60 days is just fine for killing such a beautiful animal.

Poor pelican.

Peace



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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I do feel it was wrong for them to put him in jail, but look at it this way. He now gets food and shelter, not the best, but maybe a little break off of the streets can help.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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The whole situation is sad, and they should not jail the man.

However I couldnt help but laugh at the image of this guy stalking, then catching then ringing the pelicans neck.

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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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It wasn't wrong for him to go to jail, it probably was a plan, the animal is protected. Just like if I went down to the power plant and tried to kill a manatee because I was hungry. I would be getting a year of free meals.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Since its a protected animal in the area its hardly suprising the judge will give a sentence, so while he's desperate its no real substitue technically for following the law and he's got 2 months of free food/lodging and all he has to do is slap a guard once a month and i bet he could end up having many years worth of good food on the tax payer



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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So who owned the pelican? The town, county, state or country?

If they can put him in jail for killing it, it must belong to someone. And then the question becomes how a govt. can state that they own the pelican. I know, ridiculous but so is the charge.

If he killed a bug to eat it, would it be the same crime?

Peace



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Once you get all the feathers off there isnt really that much meat on it,
If he had thought about it more ,he should have befriended the bird and trained it to catch fish for him
Goodbye Mr. Percival



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by jude11
If he killed a bug to eat it, would it be the same crime?


Or perhaps a wolf??

Peace



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by TrueBlood
This is a problem because the state would rather this man sit on the street and die of hunger than help him or, in this case, let him eat an animal that it considers more valuable than human life.



Originally posted by TrueBlood
You and I were born into a system of control. You play by the rules or the state puts you in a cage. If you end up homeless you do not build shelter and you do not hunt food. You die on the street like a good animal or be put in a cage.


But you also want a system of control where you force others to pay for another human being with mobsters as the ones who redistribute the wealth.

No it's not a shame that the state rather him die on the streets
It's a shame that human beings aren't helping this man by choice, but what do you expect from a lazy welfare state!

You are part of the problem!



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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HMMMM, very thought provoking post, I guess if I am in his predicament, I now know how to get three hots and a cot.
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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
One thing for sure, he won't be hungry for the next two months.

Glass half full.


I thought the same thing. Man gets Hungry. Man kills bird to eat. Man learns Bird has more rights! Man sentenced to 60 days with free meals 3x's a day. Man learns lesson. Kill bird to be arrested, not to eat.

Now he'll know what to do when he's hungry in the future. Do something to offend a tourist badly enough and it's free meals and hot sheets for a month or two. Makes perfect sense.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

Originally posted by masqua
One thing for sure, he won't be hungry for the next two months.

Glass half full.


I thought the same thing. Man gets Hungry. Man kills bird to eat. Man learns Bird has more rights! Man sentenced to 60 days with free meals 3x's a day. Man learns lesson. Kill bird to be arrested, not to eat.

Now he'll know what to do when he's hungry in the future. Do something to offend a tourist badly enough and it's free meals and hot sheets for a month or two. Makes perfect sense.


This logic could also be used if you would like better health coverage than you currently pay an arm and a leg for. Need an operation but it costs to much money? Go choke a bird.

Welcome to America. Bird has more rights than you.
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posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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I do not know the full facts of the situation, but based on the brief article, he says he intended on eating the pelican. Maybe that was just an excuse as he knew he was in trouble, or maybe he did it deliberately knowing he could go to jail. Murder is murder. I guess the judge had compassion on him, which is why he got a jail sentence. If the judge didn't care about him he'd probably have released him back onto the street. At least he wont go hungry for 2 months. Makes you wonder how many people in jail or prison are actually purposely there so they dont starve on the streets.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
One thing for sure, he won't be hungry for the next two months.

Glass half full.


And for those that run the prison system....bank accounts are kept full.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by Firefly_
Murder is murder


UNLESS YOU ARE STARVING.....



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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So if I'm a cannibal, and I'm starving, I can kill a human without it being murder.

That's nice to know.



posted on Sep, 9 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
So if I'm a cannibal, and I'm starving, I can kill a human without it being murder.

That's nice to know.


Except he didn't kill a human being did he?



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