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Originally posted by rickymouse
If people don't want to eat organic, they can do as they want. They have no right to deny people who want to eat organically their right to choose their foods though. People who eat organically have to understand something also. The organic forms of pesticides/miticides are sometimes as bad for the body, and sometimes worse, than the conventual pesticides/miticides. Just because the government allows them as certified organic chemicals doesn't mean they are safe. The government certifies many things as safe that no long term testing is done on. I see big commercial organic farmers spraying these things on their plants and wonder if they have personally researched them. The best way is to work with nature when you are growing things.edit on 10-9-2012 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Em2013
Organic food is bad because it doesn't add that level of protection when growing. Non-organic is bad because it has the protective chemicals. Organic serves an important purpose for certain people dieting while non-organic doesn't do this. Non-organic is more affordable and more likely to sustain people fed versus organic which is difficult to grow and maintain.
I haven't read the article but basically those are some points that have been made over the past few years and neither side is better or worse unless you would rather be frugal about it.
Originally posted by Thinair1
reply to post by VoidHawk
Of course the GM strawberries! Don't you listen to the government?
But strawberries we grow in my backyard are always x1000 better than anything you can buy in the store. When you grow your own food, then eat it. You really notice a difference in your health, especially in the long term.
Originally posted by rickymouse
reply to post by UdonNiedtuno
Bt used as insecticide. Although it exists naturally in soils and on plants, concentrating it can cause a problem. the presence of it when used as an organic pesticide can cause the same reactions in some people as having Bt corn.
Here is an article to show organic insecticides
I consider most of these safer than chemical pesticides but in essence they are still pesticides. I personally do not have allergies to most of these organic pesticides, but some people do. Just type allergy behind any organic pesticide and you can find something. Look at more than one example of everyone, we aren't limited by what is in a book when surfing the net. There are many cross reactivities to consider also.
As far as the government is concerned, miticides are different than pesticides. Which they are technically. Miticides do not have all the regulations as pesticides do including exclosure. Miticides are sprayed on food after it is picked, it keeps them from oxidizing and turning ugly. These miticides can be more dangerous than pesticides. I don' t think they are allowed on organic foods, with the exception of some fluoride miticides that are termed organic. The EPA is supposed to have banned the use of these fluoride miticides now, organic and regular.
I've studied this extensively looking at all angles, Maybe you should research it more. I try to eat at least seventy five percent organic. I know where my beef is grown and I know they have researched the chemicals available and that they know there are bad certified chemicals out there. Remember that the rules made for organic vegetables are also made to protect big growers and extend shelf life so products get to market safe.edit on 10-9-2012 by rickymouse because: (no reason given)