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Is this the best ufo vid?

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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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I dont know if this has been shown on ATS before?

I took this vid apart frame by frame and looked closely at the begining where the planes and the saucer first appear out of the sunlight. I cant see any indication that the saucer was added in to the clip. My guess would be that if its fake then the planes are probably also fake.

There's no info on the youtube page and comments have been dissabled too.

Any plane experts on ATS? What kind of planes are they, who owns them etc..





posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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looks like a cgi has been used to make this one. In other words its a fake!



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Totally fake imo. And those are F-14s (Which were retired in 2006). That much alone pretty much makes an already obvious fake, impossible.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
looks like a cgi has been used to make this one. In other words its a fake!


Please explain what makes it look like cgi?



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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i thought, and still think, this one might be the real thing. but i could be wrong.

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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Is this the best ufo vid?

No it isn't , it has been posted before and it is a hoax .
Jets escorting UFO - CGI, US tech, or UFO
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by RoScoLaz
i thought, and still think, this one might be the real thing. but i could be wrong.

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Me too. Its too easy to just declare that its cgi..

If posting that its cgi could people please offer their evidence for this.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by gortex
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Is this the best ufo vid?

No it isn't , it has been posted before and it is a hoax .


Not saying your wrong but evidence please.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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This video was originally uploaded to YouTube by member DISCL0SUR3 on August 15, 2011. Unfortunately, this member has a history of uploading fake UFO video's so I think we must assume it is CGI.

Best regards,
Z



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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In context, why would someone film the ground? Its not even a very interesting ground either.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by LouiseB
In context, why would someone film the ground? Its not even a very interesting ground either.


Have you never allowed your arm to lower itself while holding a camera? I fail to see how that reflects on the authenticity of the video.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Analysis done by ATS member Pinke


check Pinke's post half way down the thread page below
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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it "feels" fake to me



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by gortex
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Analysis done by ATS member Pinke


check Pinke's post half way down the thread page below
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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Very intersting read but not REAL proof of fakery. I recently watched a lecture on video forensics (phorensics?) and the first thing that was made clear is how difficult it is to prove fakery. Indeed they suggested the only real way was to take a staight line through a frame and look at the pixel values because of the way camera's interpolate. Though I have great respect for pinks effort I saw no mention of using this method.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by gortex
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Analysis done by ATS member Pinke


check Pinke's post half way down the thread page below
www.abovetopsecret.com...


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Very intersting read but not REAL proof of fakery. I recently watched a lecture on video forensics (phorensics?) and the first thing that was made clear is how difficult it is to prove fakery. Indeed they suggested the only real way was to take a staight line through a frame and look at the pixel values because of the way camera's interpolate. Though I have great respect for pinks effort I saw no mention of using this method.


I don't think Pinke's intention was to prove fakery, only to point out elements of the video that indicate it. She explicitly notes at the end of the post:




DISCLAIMER: Debunk is an example debunk only. Pinke accepts no responsibility for pain, loss of earnings, or accuracy of debunk. By reading this debunk you're agreeing to Pinke's terms. I'm on a horse.


She seems highly intelligent and appears to know what she's talking about. Either that or she's able to BS very articulately and blatantly. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:35 PM
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Why so defensive? All I'm saying is we don't have context. We don't know that the person holding the camera was resting their arm. All I saw was they were filming the ground. Evidence can only be taken from what is there, not what is assumed!



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Some pretty are pretty skilled with that there photoshop



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Premier2012
Some pretty are pretty skilled with that there photoshop




You can't do this sort of thing with Photoshop. Now maya, match mover, and adobe after effects, yes.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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The aircrafts move from the right of the screen and dissapear into the left, then the camera pans down as the person runs forward into the road. Then the camera pans up into the sky towards the right where you see the aircrafts once again in the distance flying off into the horizon towards the left once more. In my opinion this is fake because it seems too quick of an amount of time for the aircrafts to make a full around circle, as well as the audio doesnt sound as if the planes are going around the camera. Just my opinion.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Premier2012
Some pretty are pretty skilled with that there photoshop




id have to say cgi too, even with filtering etc, if the work was done well enough it would still blend in.

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