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Originally posted by denver22
doomsayers Conspiracy theories are a powerful source of pride and a wellspring of intellectual vanity. The theorist comes to see himself as thinking on a higher plane than the ignorant masses around him. He walks the fringes of society, watching his surroundings with suspicion. No one realizes what’s going on, he thinks.
If speaking his mind on conspiracies causes others to recoil, he simply dismisses them as “dumb sheep” who cannot see what he sees. Every episode like this further reaffirms how special this inside information makes him.
Many of these individuals enjoy the thrill of perceived danger that comes along with having supposedly top-secret knowledge, feeling as though they have a lead role in a secret-agent film—except they are not in a movie!
And to the doomsayers we are all 007s licence to shill.
Isn't that right gaykeeper ? were all disinfos aren't we lmaoedit on 8-9-2012 by denver22 because: (no reason given)
Pull out your mastercard its right in front of our faces.
Originally posted by rebellender
reply to post by GameKeeper
Pull out your mastercard its right in front of our faces.
better yet why dont you pull out your master card and bring me a late model Jeep YJ.
this figures to be 2 different time lines that dont match for tomorrow. Can you help me out with that?
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by abeverage
Just playing devil's advocate here...but how would you see a dark star in the sky? It doesn't shine etc according to some theories, sooo?
Originally posted by eriktheawful
But when you have young people killing themselves because they think this stuff is true and is going to happen, then yah, I step in.
When "Cult Leaders" (sorry, there is no other term for what Nancy Lieder is, and her followers. They ARE a cult), urge people to kill their pets to get ready for the end of the world, yep, I and others step in.
Where does it stop? What will be the next "urging" to do? Kill your neighbors and yourself?
Reputable sky charts are readily available for all the solar system planets, the larger asteroids and brighter comets, the dwarf planet Pluto and even dwarf planets beyond the orbit of Pluto. But where’s a comparably viable chart for the planet Nibiru?Moreover, bona fide online orreries and planetarium programs let you visually see the present positions of all the solar system planets at the drop of a hat. But I have yet to see the planet Nibiru on any of them. Some orrery programs are even accompanied by an ephemeris, which is a table listing calculated positions of celestial objects at regular intervals. The ephemeris on the right lists the coordinates for the sun, moon, planets and even the dwarf planet Pluto for early September 2012. Noticeably absent, however, is the planet Nibiru. For an up-to-date visual presentation of the planets, click here or here or here. Astronomers have discovered a number of large trans-Neptunian objects – most notably Sedna – in the far, far reaches of the solar system, but have yet to find the planet Nibiru within the inner solar system. How is it possible that astronomers can see an extrasolar planet some 25 light-years away but not detect Nibiru in our back yard? It’s not possible. Nibiru doesn’t exist.
If it did exist, Nibiru’s orbit would be highly unstable Nibiru supposedly has an orbital period of 3,600 Earth-years. Let’s pretend for a moment that’s the case. Knowing the orbital period, we could use Kepler’s third law of planetary motion to compute Nibiru’s semi-major axis at 235 astronomical units (AU). Given the planet’s semi-major axis, we could go on from there to figure out other aspects of Nibiru’s orbit.
The great Johannes Kepler (1571-1630), who discovered the laws of planetary motion. Image credit: Wikimedia Commons If the semi-major axis = 235 astronomical units (AU), then the major axis = 470 AU. We know Nibiru’s orbit around the sun can’t be a perfect circle (orbital eccentricity = 0) because, if that were the case, it would always be 235 AU from the sun and never reach the inner solar system. Assuming that Nibiru comes to within one astronomical unit (AU) of the sun, the outer edge of its orbit must recede as far as 469 AU from the sun. Thereby, the orbit would have to be a very squashed ellipse with an extreme eccentricity of 0.9957 (234/235 = 0.9957). The flattened orbit would more resemble the outer edge of a toothpick than a circle in shape. An orbit with such a high eccentricity is highly unstable. Now that we know the planet’s semi-major axis, we can use what’s known as the Vis-viva equation to figure Nibiru’s orbital speed at any distance from the sun. I find that at the Earth’s distance from the sun, Nibiru would be flying at nearly 42.1 kilometers per second. Quite by coincidence, that 42.1 km/sec figure represents the escape velocity from our solar system at a distance of one astronomical unit from the sun. Because Nibiru would be traveling at or near escape velocity, the slightest perturbation by another solar system object would destabilize its orbit and likely eject Nibiru from the solar system. It would, that is, if there were a Nibiru. The non-existent planet Nibiru well demonstrates that out-of-sight does not necessarily mean out-of-mind.
Q: (L) Will that be perceptible to us here on the Earth? A: Only through measurements. Q: (T) There have been a lot of reports of late regarding major solar activity, solar flares, solar winds, etc. The surface of the sun has a whole lot going on. The last I heard, one of the two satellites observing the sun, one of them is gone. Is this an effect from the sun itself, or is this an effect of the approaching brown dwarf?