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No more white cadet pilots for South African Airways

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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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Cadet pilot training course applications from white men are no longer being accepted by South African Airways (SAA).


SAA spokesperson Kabelo Ledwaba told Beeld that the cadet programme was being advertised online as an initiative to bring pilot demographics in line with the country's broader demographics.

"Only 15% of SAA's pilots are currently black, and this includes Indians and coloureds. The rest are white, and 91% of them are men."

Ledwaba said the airline would appoint male, white pilots when there were vacant posts for which applicants of other races could not be found.

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This is not only unfair against white pilots but also undermines the credibility of South African Airway's black pilots.

Would we trust a black brain surgeon if we knew he wasn't selected on the basis of being the brightest and the best but rather on the basis of the color of his skin?


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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 02:05 AM
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I left South Africa in 1990 because I knew this was coming and I warned a lot of people (I had pre-knowledge of this kind of crap that was going to happen with the ANC), but the rest of the people all said it would never happen... doh! The country is run by corrupt fools which is just the way their handlers at the IMF and the mining cartel likes it. They run it like a gang runs a neighborhood as enforcers, that being into the ground with lots of graft and kickbacks, backhand deals, generally through brute force and with levels of stupidy that make two story outhouses look intelligent. Affirmative Action is a joke in SA, the @sshats in government don't even know what the words or the program means, which is basically helping/equalizing minorities, which I believe the caucasians, asians, arabs, etc. are, minorities. BEE is another joke of a program, it is simply a method to bribe other people so they can bribe government officials. It just goes round and round like water down a toilet and into the drain with the rest of the waste and feces.

I thought SAA was a thoroughly corrupt and criminal company when they destroyed evidence, "salted" investigations using Margo and ripped off all the families of the victims when the Helderberg went down. Seriously, $75k for each victim's family when the plane was carrying military contraband that the SA and US governments both knew about, I mean c'mon? SAA management wasn't stupid back then, just coniving, deceitful, liars as well as criminal and corrupt. SAA should have had their doors closed permanently in 1988. But now, like the government, they are stupid as well to go along with their past pedigree and a waste of good air.

But cheer up, the worst is yet to come.

ETA: Is this new rule part of the agreement for SAA to get the bailout money they need so badly?

Cheers - Dave
edit on 9/8.2012 by bobs_uruncle because: ETA



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 02:22 AM
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Well, a bit premature this sensationalist article you posted. It was still in discussion.

Here is the latest news on this.


Johannesburg - South African Airways (SAA) has lifted a ban on applications by whites for its cadet pilot programme, according to Sunday's Rapport newspaper.

According to reports by Fin24.com the application process for the cadet programme had been extended from August 17 to August 31, to allow other whites to apply. The airline's website had been changed so that applications from white men would not automatically be rejected, according to Fikile Thabethe, head of the airline's legal department.

The ban was lifted on Friday, after trade union Solidarity sent SAA a letter from its lawyers, urging it to drop its quota system for cadets. The Democratic Alliance and Solidarity reacted with outrage on Friday to news that whites would be excluded from the programme. SAA spokesperson Kabelo Ledwaba told Beeld the move was meant to bring pilot demographics in line with the country's.

He told Rapport that 85% of SAA's pilots were white, and, of these, 91% were men. "This total ban on applications from whites goes against the letter and spirit of the constitution," Solidarity's deputy general secretary Dirk Hermann told Rapport.


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These type of things do not go unnoticed, and usually gets sorted out.

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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
Well, a bit premature this sensationalist article you posted. It was still in discussion.


That's good news that they have lifted the ban and are no longer rejecting applications from whites.



South African Airways (SAA) has lifted a ban on applications by whites for its cadet pilot programme, according to Sunday's Rapport newspaper.

The airline's website had been changed so that applications from white men would not automatically be rejected, according to Fikile Thabethe, head of the airline's legal department.

News24



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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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Fairly typical, and far from sorted in any sense whatsoever.
Indeed, one can probably expect more such cases and actions by Solidarity.

Black Economic Empowerment and Affirmative Action in SA is quite a complex matter, since apparently there is room for "fair discrimination" in the post-1994 Constitution.
Fair enough, but there are obviously major abuses of that system, which some would legally argue never intended to place national quotas on provinces.
Neither was it ever intended that posts be kept open until a suitable black candidate is found (seemingly from any country), while local white, coloreds and Indians who are qualified are refused those positions and promotions.
www.salabournews.co.za... html

The scale of the abuses now results in racial discrimination.
According to the ANC plan:

The national plan requires each region to be an exact replica of the national racial demographics ... according to this plan this means that, everywhere in South Africa, there should be 79,3% black, 9,3% white, 8,8% coloured and 2,5% Indian employees.

(Source: Above link.)

Ironically the racial classifications are in practice still those of apartheid, perhaps with the logic that one can only redress something by repeating it.

The only solution so far is to make the language a bit less obvious.
A bit like: "We'll still instantly trash your CV if you're white, but please feel welcome to send it."

Woolworths had a similar outrage recently, and also decided to never be so blatantly truthful again.
www.iol.co.za...

Although one can often read between the lines in job adverts, I prefer the honest approach, and if I'm not the right race by definition then say so upfront, and spare me the paper and the effort.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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Don't these people realize that the reason why the majority of pilots are white is because there are not enough black qualified pilots in the first place?

This is a predominantly black country, I'm sure the reason there are so few black pilots isn't because they were all discriminated against on the basis of color. LOL

If they stuck to this they would be killing the aviation business in SA.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 03:28 AM
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Oh boy, you're gonna see some pretty interesting flying in the next 10 years. When they did the same to the navy's submariners it ended up with a sub in the repair docks because somebody reversed into a barge.

Every facit of South African governance is now nothing but a joke, appointing somebody as minister of defence when she's never even held a gun or been on an army base.

Even in the police and the guarding of our rhinos.

Now, the Kruger National Park is hiring it's old white employees back on an advisory basis simply because they cannot effectively protect the park themselves. And so it goes on.

Get rid of the whites, wait for # to break and hire them back when you loose controll... Pathetic.


 
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