So I wanna try to deduct whats the real cause of our current global issues are. Europe became more crowded in the mid 2nd millenia, this grew concern in the mind of the monarch powers. "how can we still control the people if they grew exponentialy in number?" So they came up with the idea to send them abroad onto an expedition, to seek new worlds and new riches. This was the story how western people came to the east and the Americas. And also the southern region of Africa.

It was also initiated through Marco Polo's writings. But all old Marco mentioned was about the gold and precious stones of the east, and all their riches and beauty, silk, ceramics, papirus, opium, etc. He never mentioned how populaous it also was. So when the first Europeans officers realized how many people there was in the east, they start to grow another concern. They were not very barbarous, some are even friendly and quite obidient, and they were not very smart too, especially in the matter of trade. But still, it trigered some thoughts. Slow but sure they reported this and the authority at home had the same conclusion. It was a potent threat to the future. So what did they do, they start to plot something in order to maintain the upper hand.

Were the west faulty, were they evil? Not entirely perhaps. Their concern proved to be not of so empty, when China started to modernize their nation through communism. It was the time of economic boom in the far eastern world. Technologicaly they were still behind the west, but what did they have the west didnt? It was manpower, plenty in number. Much more plenty compared to the western world.

Another question was: were the west guilty of colonialization and human rights violations? IMHO this is rather difficult to say. The west came in the intent to enrich themselves, like any other government had in mind. Did they exploit the local people? Yes, but so did their local government/elites at that time (and still does, perhaps, till this very day). CMIIW. Were the colonial army, cruell? They might, but in the other hand they also brought other possitive traits to the new world. They introduced them about equality of rights, liberalism, organizational knowledge, technique, etc. Hence, the local elites didnt like the westerners, so they try to set their people to revolt against the colonial force. And as we know, they succeded in the end, to do so. At least thats what it was for the naked eye to perceive.

This is of cource no means of me to say, we should support the secret freemason order. But the problem is, neverland is not the only worse faction there is. No?

So what it is what keeps men go on, and on? It is fear. What made the west so fiercly and determined in attaining growth? What is it that the west fear the most of the eastern world? It was their number! So when the east grew more in number and in their economic power house, the west also grews more and more greedier to attain corporated and financial profit. In order not to be crushed by the overwelmingly growing east. Is this not the root of evil capitalism? The manifestation of the very basic primal instinct of a species to survive and to compete?

This is probably the understanding which underlies the carvings on a massive masonic milestone somewhere in the US (I forgot the name of the monumet, and in which state).

The question is, how do we maintain overpopulation in the east? Shall we follow China's footstep on their one child policy? Is there another way? And what does this anything to do with RICE? We know, all of the overpopulous countries are in Asia, and all of them consumes rice as it prime carbo diet. China, India and Indonesia. Three of the most populous countries in the eastern world.

I believe that overpopulation is the root of all our global problem and political issues. If we can settle this, we can settle a lot. If we can solve this, we can save a lot. Thank you for reading, cheers

I think the two options are depopulation on Earth or space colonization. The latter is not feasible yet, but maybe in 50 years.

Also, I think technological advancements could allow Earth to support high populations comfortably. I don't think the 10 billion threshold needs to be a kiss of death. It's a big planet and a smart society may be able to support 15 or 20 billion.

Another strategy would be relocation. America and Canada aren't too densely populated and could probably handle double what we have.

I think most of humanities resource problems could be solved with advancements in space exploration, food and water technology, and better social ethic. The next 20 years could probably be considered critical.

Overpopulation is just another myth that gets repeated until people believe it like global warming. It all started back with Thomas Malthus when he said that the world would end in 1890 if we did not start killing all the poor. This "end date" keeps getting pushed forward, im sure everyone has seen how we will run out of food/water in X years.
Overpopulation is not a problem in the middle east or anywhere else. It is just more of that same old chicken little the sky is falling crap.

I love it when people say we are over-populated, because my first come back is then "We will start depopulating the earth as long as you're the first to go, please lead by example."

They do not ever lead by example.

Really, people still believe in overpopulation?

Every time people bring that up, I really have a hard time understanding how they came to that conclusion.

Overpopulation is not a problem in the middle east or anywhere else.

You're insane. Millions of people die every year from starvation, thirst, and dirty water. We can barely take care of our own 300 million, in fact many areas have serious water shortages. Our aquifers are being depleted and so are the oceans. If we don't stop our population growth even America won't be able to feed everyone (we barely do that now).

Rolling the dice on the odds that more technological advances will keep people from dying is irresponsible, risky and plain stupid, considering there's not a single good reason whatsoever for having our huge population except for laziness and extreme stupidity.

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Another strategy would be relocation. America and Canada aren't too densely populated and could probably handle double what we have.

edit on 9/8/2012 by PatrickGarrow17 because: (no reason given)

Yeah, I am sure good little leftists would love to see Caucasians as second class citizens in our own countries. This is what it is all about right? Harp about "over population", trick Caucasians into limiting their population growth while the other races steam ahead in terms of total population then say "we got soo much empty land here".

What your spouting is GENOCIDE as defined by the Geneva convention. It is disgusting that a person who is advocating genocide is allowed to do so freely.