Gays have the right to marry and always have

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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Honor93
 


I am saying that marriage is a union between man and woman. Gays have the right to marry and they always have.
then i'd like you to post a historical source for such information (not a biblical one)
in other words, by WHOSE definition, yours ??

until DOMA, neither SCOTUS or Congress established a specific definition of marriage.
the Church did and the State/local legislative bodies endorsed it.
doesn't make it right.
besides, that is not how the American system of equality was meant to be exercised.




posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by Honor93
 


It varies state to state.
details please, i asked for details ... even a link would be good

years maybe but months ??? prove it.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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The simple fact is gay marriage will happen, you can um and aaaah and rant about your magic man in the sky, who loves all of his creations except the gays apparently, but gay people will enjoy the same rights as you no matter what. The world moves a lot faster than the little cogs in your head, you will in your lifetime have to watch all of the disgusting discriminatory laws get wiped out. cry all you want, better still ask your god to stop us, let me know how that works out for you.

I live in the netherlands and already married a man, god didn't intervene so I assume he's okay with it, grow up or shut up simples . All you've done with your rant is proved that the gene pool could use a little chlorine.

Be well but be quiet
:0)



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by kaylaluv
 


Who said anything about polygamy? I said a (one) man and (one) woman.

Together they have reproductive parts and can create families.


What about people who can't have children? They shouldn't be allowed to marry because they can't multiply?



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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reply to post by RealSpoke
 


Theres only one creator. Doesnt matter what you believe.

And besides, my wife and I are a mixed couple. Nice try though.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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reply to post by Honor93
 


It's atonomical, not religious. But feel free to take it up with the man upstairs if you have a problem with that.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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I wish gays would go about their business!
They're nothing special.....
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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reply to post by glassspider
 


It already does happen.

I am straight though, but before gay marriage was allowed in certain states. Did you see me raising a fit cause I couldn't marry another man? No.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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reply to post by buster2010
 


I never said that.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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reply to post by Honor93
 

The states are limited, true... It appears there are only 16 or so, actually. Texas is stricter than this says in at least so far as the Law Enforcement down there fully treats couples presenting as married, although it sure does vary as I was surprised to see. Colorado seems the most open and 'there ya have it' in their attitude. lol.. I don't know how else to describe their approach. lol


Alabama: The requirements for a common-law marriage are: (1) capacity; (2) an agreement to be husband and wife; and (3) consummation of the marital relationship.

Colorado: A common-law marriage may be established by proving cohabitation and a reputation of being married.

Iowa: The requirements for a common-law marriage are: (1) intent and agreement to be married; (2) continuous cohabitation; and (3) public declarations that the parties are husband and wife.

Source - All the info on Common Law Marriage
That's actually interesting stuff there. I was also under the impressing that 6 months was a meaningful time period. Apparently by reading the guidelines, time isn't important either way. Hmm..



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by kaylaluv
 


Who said anything about polygamy? I said a (one) man and (one) woman.

Together they have reproductive parts and can create families.


You should have proofread your post. Look closer....

Gay people have reproductive parts, and they usually work, too. Some heterosexual people's reproductive parts don't work so well. That's why we have invitro fertilization, and surrogates. Surrogates have been around in some form since biblical times, so God thinks they are perfectly acceptable.

Adoptions are also common place, and heterosexuals whose reproductive parts don't work so well adopt children all the time. Gays often adopt children who have been in the foster care system - children with emotional and psychological problems - children that no one else wants.
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:17 PM
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reply to post by thehoneycomb
 


What exactly is your point you're straight and didn't fight to have a gay marriage, quel surprise. Weird comment



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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reply to post by glassspider
 


Well, it seems, that I really never had the right to marry another man either.

But did I throw a fit about it? No.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb

Theres only one creator. Doesnt matter what you believe.



Interesting statement. What you believe is the creator is the final fist-thump on your pulpit and, on that alone, you are wanting over 300 million people to toady up to your interpretations of God and the bible.

Does that not sound just a little arrogant to you?



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:24 PM
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Of course you didn't, you didn't want to marry another man. This much we already understand about you. As if any man would want to marry a bible thumping bigot.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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No, but the LGBTQ community is trying to destroy the constitution and the United States with these types of issues. How is that arrogant of me?

I have every right to stand up for my children and my rights as a parent not to be trampled on by the LGBTQ community which advocates communism and socialism.

How is that arrogant of me?



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by glassspider
 


Well, it seems, that I really never had the right to marry another man either.

But did I throw a fit about it? No.


I wonder if you would have thrown a fit if you were not allowed to marry the woman you are married to right now. It wasn't so long ago that you would not have been allowed to have a mixed marriage. Thank goodness the Supreme Court gave you the right to, huh?



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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reply to post by kaylaluv
 


Would it have stopped me from being with her?

No.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by kaylaluv
 


Would it have stopped me from being with her?

No.


It would have stopped you from getting a marriage license, and all the legal benefits associated with that license. And some states made it illegal to even co-habitat with someone of the "negro race". You wouldn't have been allowed to have sex, because the offspring was considered only half human. Yes, that's how small-minded people were back then. Kind of like how small-minded you are being right now.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:44 PM
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They don't call them african americans where you are from?

Besides, she's not part of the negro race. Assume things much?
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