posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 04:21 PM
reply to post by Misoir
Every society has and every society will discriminate against some, make choices at the expense of some, and generally exclude them from
regular participation in that society. Each society has the choice of who those people are to be discriminated against.
This is true from a civil standpoint, but entirely false from a legal one.
You do not have the freedom from discrimination; period. Freedom takes a back seat to more important values such as truth, loyalty, obedience,
Sorry, but I do. Nothing is more important than having EQUAL treatment of individuals under the law. That's kind why we created republics, so that
TYRANTS like kings and queens could not make themselves above the law.
What you are suggesting is feudalism.
Obedience, is more important than fairness under the law? That's quite the perspective you have there.
If society must suppress certain elements, depriving them of particular freedoms, in accordance with a higher good, than so be it. This is the
common theme of all sane nations not driven by the elevation of principles such as "liberty, equality, and fraternity".
Where is it stated that we 'must' supress certani elements of people? Who is this higher good you speak of? What determines what is considered
high good? Are you going to throw a religious argument at me?
IF you are, then, well you will fail to win this debate, because your argument is religious and emotional, therefore un-rational and moot.
My argument is that of fairness under the law. Which is actually the MOST important value ANY society can have. It's actually the founding idea for
The United States and any other republic/democracy on the planet worth calling itself a nation.
Taking moral high ground in order to deny some, what others have is nonsense. This concept is only applicate to things that are actually harmful to
society, like murder or rape.
Same sex marriage has absolutely 0 effect upon anybody, except for those who choose to make it an issue within themselves.