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Let's Revoke The Rights and Protections Awarded to Heterosexual Married Couples

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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by XaniMatriX
reply to post by ConspiracyBuff
 



Marriage has nothing to with religion, or "GOD". To few other people, if getting merried is for financial benefits and what not, then u should be ashamed of your selfs, giving up to the system with such will, sad really.


You are quite wrong just like many other people. Now a marriage is meant for two people to make a bond which will without a doubt bring about children and create a family. Hence the reason why when a man and a woman get divorced with children they both are still part of each other's life no matter what.




posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by XaniMatriX
reply to post by ConspiracyBuff
 



Marriage has nothing to with religion, or "GOD". To few other people, if getting merried is for financial benefits and what not, then u should be ashamed of your selfs, giving up to the system with such will, sad really.


You are quite wrong just like many other people. Now a marriage is meant for two people to make a bond which will without a doubt bring about children and create a family. Hence the reason why when a man and a woman get divorced with children they both are still part of each other's life no matter what.


Right, but what does that have to do with the fact that marriage it self has nothing to do with religion or god? Without a doubt bring about children and family, i wonder what people did before marriage was invented and sold? what kind of disney movies do you watch?
and my parents are divorced, they have nothing to do with each other's lifes anymore. i got my own life, my father and mother have their own lifes just like you!

Some paper and vows doesn't bind a person to a family and each other, thats up to the people them selfs.
I want to understand your logic but its hard, how does some ceremony and rituals bind two people? that is a decicsion a man or women make on their own, weather to be loyal and have a family and what not, but marriage being the factor in all that is just disney nonscence.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by XaniMatriX

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by XaniMatriX
reply to post by ConspiracyBuff
 



Marriage has nothing to with religion, or "GOD". To few other people, if getting merried is for financial benefits and what not, then u should be ashamed of your selfs, giving up to the system with such will, sad really.


You are quite wrong just like many other people. Now a marriage is meant for two people to make a bond which will without a doubt bring about children and create a family. Hence the reason why when a man and a woman get divorced with children they both are still part of each other's life no matter what.


Right, but what does that have to do with the fact that marriage it self has nothing to do with religion or god? Without a doubt bring about children and family, i wonder what people did before marriage was invented and sold? what kind of disney movies do you watch?
and my parents are divorced, they have nothing to do with each other's lifes anymore. i got my own life, my father and mother have their own lifes just like you!

Some paper and vows doesn't bind a person to a family and each other, thats up to the people them selfs.
I want to understand your logic but its hard, how does some ceremony and rituals bind two people? that is a decicsion a man or women make on their own, weather to be loyal and have a family and what not, but marriage being the factor in all that is just disney nonscence.





Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue? Plus, when the mom or dad see their kid which came from the one they divorced they think of their ex and some of the memories they had with each other no matter what. No matter what those individuals will always be connected at their heart. So what does your heart or soul have to do with Yahweh or in your words God. This being said proves my point. By the way sorry to hear about your parents that's not cool.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue?


After I divorced my ex - - the next time I saw him or talked to him was the kids high school graduation. Kids were 7 & 9.

No - you do not have to stay in touch.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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Furthermore, marriage existed before marriage had anything to do with a piece of paper. Marriage was considered when a man and a woman had sexual intercourse and bore children before man created it's own meaning for marriage. Also, if people get married without the intentions of being loyal with each other they shouldn't be getting married.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue?


After I divorced my ex - - the next time I saw him or talked to him was the kids high school graduation. Kids were 7 & 9.

No - you do not have to stay in touch.



In that case you all got into a relationship which wasn't based on love and just lusted for each other that is it. Which is really SAD because apparently you all didn't understand the meaning of marriage.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue?


After I divorced my ex - - the next time I saw him or talked to him was the kids high school graduation. Kids were 7 & 9.

No - you do not have to stay in touch.



In that case you all got into a relationship which wasn't based on love and just lusted for each other that is it. Which is really SAD because apparently you all didn't understand the meaning of marriage.



Really?

You base that on her response?

Sorry, but you cant. You dont even know what she went through.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue?


After I divorced my ex - - the next time I saw him or talked to him was the kids high school graduation. Kids were 7 & 9.

No - you do not have to stay in touch.



In that case you all got into a relationship which wasn't based on love and just lusted for each other that is it. Which is really SAD because apparently you all didn't understand the meaning of marriage.


You're wrong.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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I rest my case and I am done with this topic.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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In that case you all got into a relationship which wasn't based on love and just lusted for each other that is it. Which is really SAD because apparently you all didn't understand the meaning of marriage.


How do you know what Annee's first marriage was based on?

How do you know what she understood?

Were you her first husband?

Sorry to the board for my earlier post...I do know better.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:42 PM
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It's fine, their divorce has nothing to do with me, ofcourse the kids always suffer during that period of time, which no one even thinks about when they are going through a divorce but back to the point, then why did u tell me im wrong when i stated that religion and marriage have nothing to do with one another?

Second of all, no person on this planet is alive today to tell us of the day that marriage was invented, so any theories or guesses or stories people have towards that subject today are irrelivent, since no one knows for sure....anymore.

people having babies, growing up together and seperating and all that beautifull love dancing, is just part of human nature, in no way did marriage come from something that was already in place, and natural.

And today more people get married that do not actually love one another then u might think, like the OP said, MONEY is number 1 premium choice to do so.

And wow man, what kind of response is that to Annee? Im pretty sure she loved her partner more then her own family (wich is a given) at the time when she got married and chose to say yes.

Scientifically its proven that the energy of love, when two people meet, actually doesnt last forever, except for a few handfull exceptions around the world, so far, only one couple that was studied on showd the characteristic of powering eachothers love "energy" or frequency", how ever u wanna call it.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by otherpotato
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Being equally unfair does not make it fair


Clearly you are not a mom. Moms use this tactic of dispute resolution all the time:

Kids fighting over a toy? Take the toy away - no one gets to play with the toy.

Can't agree on what movie to watch? Fine, DVD goes off. No one gets to watch a movie.

Bickering in the backseat on the way to the zoo? Turn the car around - no one goes to


That's fine for arbitrary decision making as a Mom but it doesn't fly in terms of law and the Constitution.
Maybe that's why we don't have moms making decisions in a court of law.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue?


After I divorced my ex - - the next time I saw him or talked to him was the kids high school graduation. Kids were 7 & 9.

No - you do not have to stay in touch.



So you got custody and he never got visitiation? You just got child support and alimony? Or at least till you got re-married and they grew up....you never even discussed schools, or doctor visits, or PTA or anything?



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Well when they have kids who are young and/or older that are homeless and need help don't the parents have to get into contact one way or another to work out how they will deal with the issue?


After I divorced my ex - - the next time I saw him or talked to him was the kids high school graduation. Kids were 7 & 9.

No - you do not have to stay in touch.



So you got custody and he never got visitiation?


Did I say that?

Actually - I gave up both Christmas and Thanksgiving for 7 years - - because he got remarried and their sister was 13 years younger. If I did not make the effort they would never have known their sister. He drove up - they got in car. When they could drive - they drove themselves.


You just got child support and alimony?


Standard child support from state scale.


...you never even discussed schools, or doctor visits, or PTA or anything?


He wasn't interested.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by Labrynth2012

Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by Kali74
 


The whole idea of needing the governments stamp of approval and then you PAYING for a license to do what you feel is natural is ridiculous in itself!

Why does anyone need the approval of the government to live with whom they love for the rest of their life?

It's all about control and MONEY!!!!


Yes it is, you've hit the NAIL on the HEAD ! It's all about CONTROL and MONEY. People are CHATTEL to the Government. As long as you have an SSN number, they can CONTROL many aspects of your life.

However, if G/L couples want the same emoluments and privileges conferred to heterosexual couples upon marriage, then they are going to have to lobby the US Congress for them. Not the President of the US, because the President can only ENFORCE the LAW, not make it. That unfortunately, falls into the hands of the US Congress.

Good Luck with that !


Changes like this have to go through the Supreme Court first. Then it will go through Congress. That's how it happened with interracial marriage, and it WILL happen with gay marriage. Only a matter of time.


I have to remind you. US Congress makes the laws. The Executive Branch enforces them. The Judicial Branch validates the Constitutionality of the Laws passed by the US Congress after the fact (usually, when law suits are filed by those who feel the laws have abridged their freedoms).



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Furthermore, marriage existed before marriage had anything to do with a piece of paper. Marriage was considered when a man and a woman had sexual intercourse and bore children before man created it's own meaning for marriage. Also, if people get married without the intentions of being loyal with each other they shouldn't be getting married.


I totally and whole heartedly agree. Kudos to you !



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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I never said I knew what a person's belief is. Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say. That was basically what I was culling from your posts. In no way does that mean I think you stand for everyone else. I was just trying to see where you were at with it and understand your viewpoint.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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Ok so you saw him briefly for moments at a time only when he came to get kids. Yes I understand that. Makes more sense. I thought you meant you NEVER saw him again.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by XaniMatriX

Marriage has nothing to with religion, or "GOD". To few other people, if getting merried is for financial benefits and what not, then u should be ashamed of your selfs, giving up to the system with such will, sad really.



You are quite wrong just like many other people.

Here is a History of Marriage. Read the entire information. Its origins pre-date the bible, but in this country, in our culture, the BIBLE (RELIGION) controlled the concepts and authorities of a marriage as defined there as a merging of a Man and a Woman.

Link: History of Marriage - Wikipedia

You can try to make the argument all you want that RELIGION has nothing to do with it, however, it does. It defined it. It also defined responsibilities of the Wife and the Husband. It also decreed that sexual activities between a Man and a Man or a Woman and Woman were called by GOD Almighty an ABOMINATION.

Your argument is with GOD, not with me or other posters in this forum. Take up your argument with Him who Created you and gave you breath.

I understand that G/L Community wants some equality in PRIVILEGES given to Heterosexual Married Couples.
G/L people already have the guarantee of RIGHTS given by GOD to us all. But you don't have the PRIVILEGES given to Heterosexual Married Couples by our Government. For that, my friends, you are going to have to lobby Congress in the several states and in Washington D.C. if you want those PRIVILEGES extended to you. As long as America is a God Fearing Nation, that will never happen. Sorry to disappoint you.
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