As Above So Below - Astrotheology, Occult Science, Bible, Law & Language

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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 11:37 PM
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The Bible and many of the stories we were taught as kids are simply allegories of the Sun, Planets and Zodiac. This stuff is SCIENCE. Watch and Learn

First minutes of this video are a bit confusing but you will not regret after watching it in about 20 minutes, although beware he does seem quite harsh to the so-called "sheeple" of Vatican. However, the information here is very good!

Check out Mr. Astrotheology on YouTube!





posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Well, having little to go on from your post, I decided to give it a try anyway. I mean I just logged on so why not.
So yeah, cool spacey intro, then nothing more than some guy standing in front of a blackboard, kinda, and talking about whatever, and all of a sudden this guys waving a little red book in my face and, phitau? I'm outta here.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by phitau
The Bible and many of the stories we were taught as kids are simply allegories of the Sun, Planets and Zodiac. This stuff is SCIENCE. Watch and Learn

Watch and become indoctrinated would be more like it...

Science and education are nothing but MASSIVE forms of mind control and propaganda.


Science - The Illuminati Religion and Mind Control Tool for the Masses.

Because they're funded by the Illuminati, (Rockefellers, Rothschilds etc.) who are Satanists. Satanists fear that acceptance of this "intelligence" will interfere with the makeover they're giving humanity. They think they are God.

Secularism pretends to be about freedom and tolerance but that's a ruse. It is Satanism in disguise and nothing freaks a Satanist more than the rumor of God or anything resembling Him.

They serve the Prince of Lies. They make evil seem good, lies seem true. They want humanity to be an accomplice in its own demise. This is why Satanists "reveal the method." They want our moral complicity. They want our souls.

Modern Western history is the record of the overthrow of Christianity by Satanism disguised as secularism. Satanism has pervaded every aspect of our cultural and intellectual life but we hoped that science would be spared. Apparently, this is not to be.

Intelligent Scientists "Expelled" by Illuminati



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by phitau
The Bible and many of the stories we were taught as kids are simply allegories of the Sun, Planets and Zodiac. This stuff is SCIENCE. Watch and Learn

Watch and become indoctrinated would be more like it...

Science and education are nothing but MASSIVE forms of mind control and propaganda.


Science - The Illuminati Religion and Mind Control Tool for the Masses.

Because they're funded by the Illuminati, (Rockefellers, Rothschilds etc.) who are Satanists. Satanists fear that acceptance of this "intelligence" will interfere with the makeover they're giving humanity. They think they are God.

Secularism pretends to be about freedom and tolerance but that's a ruse. It is Satanism in disguise and nothing freaks a Satanist more than the rumor of God or anything resembling Him.

They serve the Prince of Lies. They make evil seem good, lies seem true. They want humanity to be an accomplice in its own demise. This is why Satanists "reveal the method." They want our moral complicity. They want our souls.

Modern Western history is the record of the overthrow of Christianity by Satanism disguised as secularism. Satanism has pervaded every aspect of our cultural and intellectual life but we hoped that science would be spared. Apparently, this is not to be.

Intelligent Scientists "Expelled" by Illuminati



Respectfully, all the nonsense about Science being the product of Satan is absolute proper nutter talk.

Consider that Satanic influence when you turn on the lights at night. You can thank Science for electric lighting.

Consider that Satanic influence when you talk on your phone. You can thank Science for the entire distant communications ability whether it's voice, text, or internet.

Consider that Satanic influence when you catch a ride on or use your own vehicle, whether the vehicle is bus, train, subway, helicopter, airplane, or even bicycle. You can thank Science for all of those.

Infant Mortality rates in the Middle Ages were around 30-50%. That's 1 out of every 2-3 children dying at a young age. Next time you look in the mirror, you can thank Science that you're actually around to look in a mirror.

Pretty much everything you see, touch, interact with, eat and drink these days are the results of Science,
Even if you're killing your own food and living completely off the grid, the very tools you use, unless you're just using rocks are the results of Science.

Thus, if pretty much everything on the planet is the result of science in one form or another, then the whole world is Satan, including all the technology that went into printing your modern religious text, and building a place of worship.

I say Give Up. If you're using the tools of Satan, then, you're condoning the work of Satan.
You can't win.

Now, to the OP;
What's this "As Above, So Below" I'm always hearing being babbled like zombie programming?
Every time I hear that phrase I'm guessing the "below" refers to us, here on Earth, right now.
Thus, if such is true, then, look around. The world is really screwed up. If things are above as they are 'below', as this ridiculous catch phrase that's parroted around seems to indicate, then, the whole Universe is totally trashed.



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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:22 AM
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It's a nonsense 'law' put about by occultists. Originally from the supposed writings of Hermes Trismegistus or some such. Essentially, it's a reformulation of what J.G. Fraser called the first principle of magic: like breeds like.

This thread has absolutely no business being in the science and technology forum.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by phitau
The Bible and many of the stories we were taught as kids are simply allegories of the Sun, Planets and Zodiac. This stuff is SCIENCE. Watch and Learn
I don't think you know what science is. The little red book he shows is by Marcus Manilius who was a 1st century AD poet and astrologer. Poetry and astrology are not considered science.

Moreover the claim our sun is part of a binary star system with Sirius is also not science. Sirius is indeed a binary star system but the two objects are Sirius A and Sirius B. Neither is our sun.

While it may be interesting to read the ancient poetry of Marcus Manilius for historical or other artistic reasons, it certainly has nothing to do with science.


Originally posted by Druscilla
What's this "As Above, So Below" I'm always hearing being babbled like zombie programming?
The stars above are "fusion reactors" we like to look at.

The stars below, I'm guessing are from Hollywood? Sometimes we like to look at those stars too. Next time I meet a Hollywood star, should I ask if they are powered by fusion?
I think I already know the answer.


Originally posted by Astyanax
This thread has absolutely no business being in the science and technology forum.
Agreed!
edit on 7-9-2012 by Arbitrageur because: clarification



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by phitau
The Bible and many of the stories we were taught as kids are simply allegories of the Sun, Planets and Zodiac.


That's a half-truth. Nothing is 'simply' anything. You are failing to connect the dots between allegory and the extraordinary abilities of consciousness.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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I've discovered that the life of Jesus both fulfilled prophecy and was framed by the stars and that he demonstrated an affinity for the unique earth/moon/sun relationship in the performance of his Great Work (of the cross), so while I haven't watched the video in the OP, there is definitely something to the idea of astrotheology.

"Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

Jesus fully understood his place and that of mankind within the creation.

Now if we can only catch up to him, in terms of his thinking and M.O. it would be a revelation imho.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Checked it (the video) out, integrated it into my thread linked in my signature..

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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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While this guy is on the right track, he does not go deep enough. It is not really about the "sun". The Hebrew word for "sun" is "shemesh" and the "oil" that "annoints" is "shemen". So, based on what this guy says, we should associate these ideas with the Hebrew word "shem" which means "name". It is all about names! "As above, so below" describes allegory. Christ is about christening. Christ is the "Logos". I can go on at least as long as this guy, but my approach brings greater understanding.
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 11:12 PM
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The author Archarya S wrote the book The Greatest Story Ever Sold years ago.
She derived all of her info from even earlier sources.
The jesus story and much of the buybull is encoded astrological information wraped up inside the stories of about 6 different individuals which is then molded to be about one man.
Sorry religious nuts but this may be very similar information comparable to discoveries of the templars that got them into trouble with the vatican.
These stories were compiled over generations by priests and other men who all had one basic goal-
Creat a one world religious empire.
This is the same goal of the vatican and pretty much every fanatical religious nut since.

As above so below:

Men have very limited perceptions and in mankinds egotism he refuses to realize that we "see" the cosmos as a reflection of ourselves.
The family based pantheon of gods....father, mother, son.
We imagine that the spiritual empires have heirarchies like worldly empires have.
We imagine that "they" live in buildings ie. temples, we imagine that they possess our emotions, desire gold and have made us in their image.

Men created the idea of the other side and deities to explain out of fear what happens to the animating force that made a now dead body once live, where did it go? and out of that fear that each of us does not want to accept our own mortality we imagine that we might live forever in a paradise and be rejoined with our earthly loved ones.

How sweet.

Unfortunately this plays well into the plans of the elite since time began: how to keep their wealth and power?
Promote the idea that one would be denied their "right" to immortality if they kill.
Increases the longevity and power of the priesthoods, the rulers, the shamans, 1%ers from the beginning all the way up to today.
The biggest threat the elite fear is if the 99% wake up, stop caring about an afterlife and, redistribute the wealth of the elite among themselves after the elite have been repositioned.

So now the elite are more afraid because they see that once again they cannot sustain the empire, it has grown to complex and the 99% are about ready to scrap morality and kill to survive.

So the concentration camps are built, martial law slowly introduced and a class war on the horizon.

And if it looks like the elite are going to bite the bullet? Rumor has it (lucis trust, benjamin creme, maetreya) they have a plan B.

Laser generated holography to generate a sign in the sky, look its jesus coming in the clouds, stop fighting.

and the fools are back on their knees worshipping an electronic idol, all peaced out and at the mercy of the elite again.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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OP. Don't be discouraged their minds are not ready for such knowledge they don't understand that it takes years and years of learning the science to be able to even make a #ing 3 min video on the topic. This man has put in so much work on this science in his life and can explain it in such a way its mind blowing! Google Prometheanreach and check out his archives it has way more stuff then YouTube has. Plus other hermetists archives as well. I'm glad you found his work. this knowledge is what separates the children from the adults in consciousness I just wish the other poster's didn't have such a drive threw mentality they may actually learn something worth while if that had just sat and watched it and tried to learn more about the subject.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by swordwords
While this guy is on the right track, he does not go deep enough. It is not really about the "sun". The Hebrew word for "sun" is "shemesh" and the "oil" that "annoints" is "shemen". So, based on what this guy says, we should associate these ideas with the Hebrew word "shem" which means "name". It is all about names! "As above, so below" describes allegory. Christ is about christening. Christ is the "Logos". I can go on at least as long as this guy, but my aproach brings greater understanding.
Then you should help others by making a vid or two. This knowledge is key.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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People are not aware and even the most enlightened would refuse to accept that "religion" is primitive science.

Religion is the science of the unknowns, it is mans attempt to explain the unexplainables, it is our attempt to shine a light into the darkness, to make sense of nonsense but because we men are so frail and so limited our religions and our sciences reflect our paranoia and display the control freak mechanisms that we further limit ourselves with.

Men need to recognize that we are not infallible, we are not divine, we are a talking monkey, we are a slightly more intelligent ape and we should be doubting ourselves and second guessing ourselves instead of believing that we are gods.

We are constantly rewriting our science books as we make new discoveries, we will rewrite our religions also, each and every religion will undergo this because what we humans are is........we are discoverers, we are on a journey of discovery and all of the secrecy, and mysticsm and sneaking, whispering and lying cannot prevent eventual discovery.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by talkinghands

Then you should help others by making a vid or two. This knowledge is key.


Too much trouble and too few will listen. It is all out there anyway, it just needs to be placed in the proper context. We live in a world of allegory. The "Matrix" is real. Put on your "sunglasses" and see beneath the names. Remember the terrorist "V"? Strange name, isn't it? If you walk down the Via Dolorosa you will get it-- "V" is right there on the wall; right after "IV", and right before the "veil" which represents the "true image" of Christ. Christ is a mask worn by many. To be "good" is to hide the truth, to be "evil" is to expose the truth. The lumps of "coal" that Santa-Satan gave to "naughty" children, were actually far more valuable than the giftwrapped items under the tree.

Christianity actually began as Gnosticism, but the Gnostics went too far in their interpretations, so they were infiltrated by false interpreters such as Philo and reformed from within. That is how Neo defeated Agent Smith. That is how Rabbi Robby defeated Spielberg's tripods. If you know that the name "Paul" means "small" it puts new light on "Smallville" and offers a clue as to why "rocks" from Superman's home world can "kill" him.

Those that claim to know the truth, often do, but they mask their knowledge with metaphor. Alchemy is really all about forms of writing and the "Philosopher's Stone" is nothing more than an elaborate metaphoric thesaurus that allows history to be transformed into mythology or religion to be transformed into philosophy. Likewise, Kabbalah's Sephirot are a sort of Dewey Decimal System which metaphorically decribe forms of allegory. Understand the true context of esoteric works and they make a lot more sense.



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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Maybe you should give up ATS because it is a result of education and science. I could let the science thing slide (even though it's still ridiculous), but to call education in general as "propaganda" is the highest form of idiocy.

I guess Satan taught you how to read and write? Why practice those skills if it's from Satan?

Please educate yourself before making such idiotic comments. Oh wait, education is evil, I guess you're screwed either way you look at it.


Religion and what it teaches is the mind-control and propaganda you're looking for, it looks like it has worked wonders on you.
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posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Wow!

First of the comments were quite negative. Perhaps these people are the so-called Disinfo Agents of ATS - Hehe. If not, then I suggest you get to know both sides of the story before judging for it appears you have not. It's all good, though. Nobody is forcing you. This thread is only here for spirits using this site to seek answers, and I provide some.

There is no such thing as good nor evil. Knowing this wisdom - astrotheology - is like walking in a room with the light on, but if you wish to walk through life in pitch dark so be it. After all, some plants grow better in the shade.

Thanks to everyone who supports my thread; it's nice to have a load off with your counter-arguments. I am glad to see there are enlightened spirits on ATS.

Carry on! =)



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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Maybe you should give up ATS because it is a result of education and science. I could let the science thing slide (even though it's still ridiculous), but to call education in general as "propaganda" is the highest form of idiocy.

I guess Satan taught you how to read and write? Why practice those skills if it's from Satan?

Please educate yourself before making such idiotic comments. Oh wait, education is evil, I guess you're screwed either way you look at it.


Religion and what it teaches is the mind-control and propaganda you're looking for, it looks like it has worked wonders on you.
edit on 8-9-2012 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)


It's pointless to try and explain how the education system shapes ones mind from an early age into the teens threw reward and punishment on various subjects. If you can't see it maybe it's because your still using that old saturnien logic

The square mortarboards are, of course, used by the Freemasons for their plaster, so that is why you wear a square mortarboard when you graduate, ultimately becoming an Alumni. It all has to do with Freemasonry; it all has to do with the control of education in this country.”

Jordan Maxwell, “Matrix of Power”

edit on 8-9-2012 by talkinghands because: i don't agree with jordan maxwell on many fronts but everyonce in a while something logical comes out.



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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I never said that the education system is perfect, but to call education in general a work of Satan is reaching a bit don't you think?



posted on Sep, 8 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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I never said that the education system is perfect, but to call education in general a work of Satan is reaching a bit don't you think?

In the consensus perspective yes. Satan is nothing more then that planet Saturn. and that’s what masons worship Saturnian knowledge or Luciferien same thing just worshiping the darker nature of man.





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