"...we will sustain the strongest military the world has ever known." Romney? Nope...Obama, page 2


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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 11:55 PM by hoochymama
reply to post by madenusa

Looking Norman and acting Normal are two different things. Juss sayen.

On the Nuclear Arms deal, if you dont think we havent upgraded our Nukes over the last 30+ years your delusional. Many were comparing the MOAB as a Nuke but for "Political" reasons it wasnt a Nuke.

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reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:15 AM by ThirdEyeofHorus
What a bizarre change of venue it is from this




Was he so desperate to get the veterans vote he had to pander the military as well?


reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:22 AM by hoochymama
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

LOL. That is classic. Pandering to the Public at its best. But haven't all Presidential Candidates pandered to the Public while grabbing hand outs from the Special Interest Groups????

Hell ya they have. Bush Sr. 4yrs Clinton 8 yrs Bush Jr 8yrs Obama probably 8yrs. Thats 28years of our lifetimes with utter BS and we still haven't learned as a Nation. Sickening to say the least.



reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:26 AM by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by neo96
reply to
post by The Old American



That is definately what we got with Obama there is an article and a death count of the people killed by drone attacks the current potus holds the title of those most killed my drones.

We definately got bigger more war the difference is they love Obama for it, where they condemned Bush for it.

To that other poster/

The difference between Bush and Obama?

Bush doesn't have a nobel "peace" prize.
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Seems like I heard loud screams of approval when Joe Biden bragged that Bin Laden was dead in his speech at the DNC.
Really bizarre. But then he did claim to have written the original Patriot Act.


reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:31 AM by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by madenusa





they passed a financial reform bill that was the textbook definition of a paper tiger,


Oh yes, I could swear I heard Obama declare tonight that he didn't think financial regulations would do anything. I had to do a double take. I need to check that, but I think that's about what I heard. Have people forgotten the Democrat stance on financial regulations? I mean when the delegates to their own convention don't even know it....

here it is. Never mind, he is making a pitch for NOT rolling back regulations on Wall Street. I read this as he knows the regulations aren't going to do diddly squat to help average people but he is nevertheless going to make his pitch.


"After all that we’ve been through, I don’t believe that rolling back regulations on Wall Street will help the small businesswoman expand, or the laid-off construction worker keep his home. We have been there, we’ve tried that, and we’re not going back," said Obama. "We are moving forward."


www.huffingtonpost.com...
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reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:31 AM by hoochymama
reply to post by madenusa

There the same no matter what. So, you all can fight over Obama and Romney and I will continue to stockpile whatever I need to make sure I am good. Either one of these buffoons cant do anything for me so I am good to go.

Great Point by the way. And dont get me started on Paul Ryan. What a joke and a fake. I need a real PERSON to lead this Country.

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reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:35 AM by hoochymama
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

And you would be one of the only people to notice. The countless others who will vote for him or Romney are the same. "Democrat" "Republican".

Can we start a new party called USOFA!!! Ohh, thats right we cant.


reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 12:54 AM by madenusa
reply to post by hoochymama



Im going to keep spending$1000.00 cash a month for gas & food.
its not what this country can do for you its what you can do for the country.......Lmfao
& be glad i have a job. "yea thats it"


reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 01:16 AM by Golf66
All I can say is he is lying through his teeth. Please understand folks I speak for the Army as it icier s my Area of Experiaznce of not expertice. I do now that the Navvy is right now as I type tthis conducting board’s decisging which senior NCOS are going to be offered early retirement, which will get a severancein lieu of that retirement and those who will be told – thanks for coming see what’s being door number three – some half as job transiton and an unemployment check.
Being a fairly senior retired Army officer I have many friends with whom I still correspond. An organization the size of the US Military makes plans 3-4 years out just like any large organization.
They are preparing for a dramatic downsizing in personnel, budget, and equipment as soon as the plug is pulled on Afghanistan. It’s coming make not doubt about it
Don’t believe me just look at the change in Recruiting goals for the US Army and how they have drastically changed over the last 3-4 years.
When Obama took office they recruiting goal was 106K Active and Reserve Component Combined. What is it for 2012 you ask…. 74L combined Active and Reserve. Now that’s a reduction of 32,000 Soldiers.
www.usarec.army.mil...
33,000 Soldiers is an entire Division of combat power. How many active combat divisions do we have right now? I can research later after the ambient wears off. However, 32K Soldiers is about a Division or 3 Brigades a lot of troops.

That is only accenting for the drop in recruitment – attrition, retirement, and expiration of their terms of service will be even more of a drain.

All these men and women who presumably having made it back in one piece had learned their craft.

Many things factor into force management that the layperson may not understand like retirement, attrition, and a new one mission fatigue that should open up these positions for the future Army.

Officers and NCO’s will be first offered early out. You know who will take them? Those who will be successful at whatever they do. Then the remainder will be boarded and those with the least potential will be involuntary separated. This will leave some really good officers who will justifiably rise to the top a mediocre force who felt they had no other option sand those who probably never should have been there.

The Military is preparing for a drawdown just like the ones we have repeated in the past WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War one etc. The part line will be that we keep the best but the best will jump ship like rats leaving the mediocre and in some cases the downright clueless.

Couple the personnel downsizing with the loss of money and equipment and even the Intelligence Services of Nepal can see out capabilities are going to be greatly impacted.

Dismisses my information if you so choose – but weakness invites threats. A weak gutted Army combined with an appeaser and swishy washer is not a good combination IMO.


reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 07:34 AM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by The Old American



And they give this war monger a nobel peace prize?



You know what you call a military with no actual enemy?

A big waste of money.

~Tenth


reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 07:41 AM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by FlyersFan



Your country has ideas that are your enemy. Not standing armies. There is a difference.

You can't really call yourself the greatest nation in the world, when your single biggest accomplishment is that you've occupied nations and others lands for the last 50 years.

You can't fight an idea with an army.

This whole ra ra military mentality is nonsense.

Murder is murder, regardless how your government of choice wants to justify it.

Notice my avatar? I don't only remember 911 for the lives lost that day, I remember it as a lesson, as the consequences of stomping in nations and others affairs that you have no business being in.

Being indignant about it is the real problem.

~Tenth
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reply posted on 7-9-2012 @ 10:28 AM by moniesisfun
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to
post by FlyersFan



You can't really call yourself the greatest nation in the world, when your single biggest accomplishment is that you've occupied nations and others lands for the last 50 years.


What is with you lately? You honestly think this is the single greatest accomplishment of the USA over the last 50 years

What about walking on the moon, building super computers, the internet....you think our greatest accomplishment is warring?

tsk, tsk...
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