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Topic started on 6-9-2012 @ 02:42 PM by meticulous

Dead Fish, Birds Wash Up On Lake Erie Shores In Latest Mystery (PHOTO)


www.huffingtonpost.com
Tens of thousands of dead fish, along with dead seagulls, washed up on the shores of Lake Erie on Wednesday afternoon in yet another mysterious mass animal death.
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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 03:03 PM by sputniksteve
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Thats because they aren't unique to this year. These happen every year of every decade.



reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 03:14 PM by deadeyedick
However, researchers who tested the Lake Erie waters have not yet observed anything out of the ordinary in their field measurements, such as temperature, pH or oxygen levels, according to the Chatham Daily News. Jordan added, "We did not observe any spill or pollution impacting the lake."


That's from the link in the op.
Why would seagulls die if it was a lack of oxygen in the water?


en.wikipedia.org...
Living fish afflicted with VHS may appear listless or limp, hang just beneath the surface, or swim very abnormally, such as constant flashing circling due to the tropism of the virus for the brain. External signs may include darker coloration, exophthalmia ("pop eye"), pale or red-dotted gills, sunken eyes, and bleeding around orbits (eye sockets) and at base of fins.[17][18][41] Genetics researchers at the Lake Erie Research Center at the University of Toledo are developing a test that will speed diagnosis from a month to a matter of hours.


It looks like someone in that area have been messing with a nasty virus and now may have mutated to infect birds also.
I certainly would not be eating out of those waters.
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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 03:48 PM by sputniksteve
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Because sea gulls eat fish. If there is a lack of O2 in the water the fish die. If the fish die the gulls die.


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 04:01 PM by deadeyedick
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I hear you loud and clear!
Eating dead fish will kill you!
Are you trying to say that the birds starved or they were killed by eating a fish that drown?
Either way it does not happen that way.
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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 04:56 PM by Blackmarketeer
Originally posted by sputniksteve
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post by deadeyedick



Because sea gulls eat fish. If there is a lack of O2 in the water the fish die. If the fish die the gulls die.


Sorry but that is nonsense. If there is a lack of O2 in the water and the fish die, it would not have any affect on seagulls who ate the fish. And a large fish kill would cause a feeding bonanza among seagulls.

This is something else besides the typical algae bloom (which causes a depletion of oxygen in the water) or warm waters. It would have to be a toxin or sewage runoff that could kill both fish and birds living near the water.

Unfortunately northeast Ohio still has open sewers dumping directly into the lake, so any chemicals dumped into sewers can end up in the lake. Sewer overflows also often dump raw sewage water into the lake as well. It's a real mess and has been since the 60's.


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 04:58 PM by Caver78
www.cleveland.com...

It's not a ''mystery'' This happens EVERY year. facepalm.......
Lake Erie is the shallowest of the great lakes with the shallowest end near Toledo.

"The strong northeast winds most likely pushed oxygen-starved waters from central Lake Erie into the shoreline areas," said Janosik on Saturday afternoon. "About 95 percent of the dead fish were sheepshead, a slow-moving fish that can be found in shallow water at this time of year.


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 05:34 PM by deadeyedick
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Wrong.
Birds do not die every year in those waters.
It is something else that killed them.
It seems that the birds ate the dead fish and died themselves. This would point to some kind of toxin or bacteria or possibly methane.


Also the link you provided tells of fresh water drum dyeing and in my experience they do not tolerate low oxygen nearly as well as the common carp and catfish that died recently.
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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 06:07 PM by deadeyedick
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In your experiences did you happen to find out the cause of what you speak of?
If your gonna imply that this is normal and healthy then please prove how unexplainable fish and birds death do not pose any risk to anyone and therefore is no big deal.



reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 06:10 PM by totallackey
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Birds are one of the many creatures that will eat themselves to death...


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 06:12 PM by totallackey
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Who said anything about healthy? I happen to know that death/illness are part of LIFE!

When you can explain to me WHEN it has not been part of all of recorded history, then you come back and write...
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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 06:36 PM by deadeyedick
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Yea i'm not buying that the birds simply ate themselves to death but i suppose there could be a chance that that's what happened here.
I agree that everything dies but i'm not just gonna ignore mass fish and bird deaths without having a reasonable explanation into the cause.
The times you mentioned you seen this happen there was less regulation on industry and it would not surprise me that contamination of the waters took place there.
That is something that does not have to be part of life and if there is a natural explanation i would love to understand why fish that are three or four years old happen to massively die all the sudden.


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 06:52 PM by totallackey
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I would be more wary of an entity telling me that immortality is a reality.

Nobody is condoning contamination. Conversely, the sky is not falling...Death is a natural part of life. People die from accidents/natural causes/illness every second of every day. It is life.


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 07:05 PM by deadeyedick
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Oh i understand now.
Since i believe in Jesus that means that massive fish and bird deaths are always just a natural occurrence and my beliefs do not allow me to see your truths.
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reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 07:12 PM by totallackey
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What the...!?!?! Where did I bring in the subject of Jesus? I am writing in the present tense.
The facts are this. Life is born/lives/dies. Right?
Sometimes many lives are born/live/die at once. It has ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY in the recorded history of mankind.
As soon as you can point to a time reference where this has NOT BEEN THE CASE, then you have a valid frame of reference to work from, capable of helping/assist you in finding a TRUE CAUSE of the issue.
Until that time, you do not.


reply posted on 6-9-2012 @ 07:18 PM by deadeyedick
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Anytime we have massive die off's there is a cause.
"It happened before" is not a cause.
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