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Originally posted by tport17
Here is my opinion. Religion needs to be taken out of this debate. Religion is not supposed to be in the government, and religion should not take a role in this debate.
Marriage is no longer a holy commitment with God, unless you want it to be. It is a legal agreement.
I was not married in a church. The man that married us was simply someone who had a license, he was not church affiliated. The bible did not govern my wedding. Why shouldn't two gay people be married in the same way?
Why can't two people commit to a legal agreement? It doesn't have to have anything to do with God and what the bible says is right and wrong.
Originally posted by StalkerSolent
While we all seem to be on the topic of equal rights for homosexuals, where do we believe the "right to marry someone of the same sex" derives from? I'm fairly certain that America's founding fathers (who had a pretty well thought out system of rights, which derived from God/Nature and nature's laws) didn't particularly think that was a right. So, what's come along since to enlighten us?
Or, in other words, says who?
Originally posted by votan
reply to post by onehuman
I don't think anyone has said gays can't be together in a relationship. they just can't marry.
Kinda like i can't get social security, food stamps or even WIC.
Why ? not because i am hated but because i do not meet the criteria.
I am being discriminated against for not being old, poor or a woman
SHould i get all huffy and puffy and ask for these programs/systems that were created with a certain group in mind to be altered just for me and people who think like me??
How about homosexuals ask for something like marriage but not marriage. heck just make the financial benefits for marriage apply to any kind of relationship. how about we start marrying people to dogs or in animate objects. How about we marry a gender changed man to a woman to a gender changed woman to a man.
No one is telling gays cannot be together(at least i have not seen it anywhere) but just that they cannot be married because they do not meet the critiera.. kinda like i don't meet the criteria for those other programs in which i am discriminated against being young , well off and not a woman.
These are just polarizing points that were divided up by the two party system to have people focus on that instead of on the important issues.
oh yeah and obama started soem education program for black youths.. i am not black so i do not qualify for that..I will cry and moan now.edit on 7-9-2012 by votan because: (no reason given)