Mitt Romney Accidentally Confronts A Gay Veteran; Awesomeness Ensues

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posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Well first off talking about Yahweh and his rule. Yahweh actually will not accept any of those who are homosexual and DO NOT repent for it. Yeshua took upon our sins only if we BELIEVE in him, ACCEPT him as CHRIST, and follow the laws of Yahweh after they understand and know the laws of Yahweh. THAT INCLUDES FOLLOWING HIS LAW NOT JUST BELIEVING AND ACCEPTING HIM AS CHRIST.


Ok... so you are pretty much admitting here that your religious cult should dictate and define our laws? I can point you to a few Islamic nations that currently do that. What you want is a theocracy, not a democracy and definitely not a republic with a constitution.

Do people realize how terrifyingly anti-American philosophies like yours are?




posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Actually NO it is NOT BS! Just because you have a strong feeling that marriage can be between two people of the same sex doesn't mean it fits the definition of marriage.


Just because you have a strong feeling that marriage is defined as heterosexual only does not mean you get the monopoly on the definition, either.



Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Why can't you queers just ask for the same benefits as those who get married and go without a ceremony. A marriage started with God in which makes marriage a holy event.


Your godling has nothing to do with a promise that people make with each other. Marriage is a social contract and only includes your narrow beliefs if you like it to. Marriage existed loooong before your Jesus and looooong before your books were written.

Your Jesus man has nothing to do with marriage.



Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
So if two people get married of the same sex it is not HOLY NO MORE! Get it! I am no catholic either and already know of the queer "priests" in which are in the catholic church ( or circus the meaning of church in Hebrew). So go ahead with your unrighteous self and start studying the meaning of words in the dictionary and what those words mean in other languages so you can make yourself more righteous than what you already are which probably won't do much for you.


"Holiness" is not a requirement for people to promise to love each other. Do you really think you are marrying god or your spouse? Marriage is defined by society, not your cult.


I am not in a cult and don't plan to be. lol Actually any belief of wide range can be considered a cult just like YOU! haha So lets pay no heed to the meaning of words and just dumb ourselves down. I don't like the meaning of something so I am going to change it just because I don't like it. Oh and you are right! My JESUS man doesn't have nothing to do with marriage YESHUA does. JESUS means " PRAISE ZUES" in Hebrew, YESHUA means " Yahweh is Salvation" in Hebrew.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Actually NO it is NOT BS! Just because you have a strong feeling that marriage can be between two people of the same sex doesn't mean it fits the definition of marriage.


Just because you have a strong feeling that marriage is defined as heterosexual only does not mean you get the monopoly on the definition, either.



Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Why can't you queers just ask for the same benefits as those who get married and go without a ceremony. A marriage started with God in which makes marriage a holy event.


Your godling has nothing to do with a promise that people make with each other. Marriage is a social contract and only includes your narrow beliefs if you like it to. Marriage existed loooong before your Jesus and looooong before your books were written.

Your Jesus man has nothing to do with marriage.



Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
So if two people get married of the same sex it is not HOLY NO MORE! Get it! I am no catholic either and already know of the queer "priests" in which are in the catholic church ( or circus the meaning of church in Hebrew). So go ahead with your unrighteous self and start studying the meaning of words in the dictionary and what those words mean in other languages so you can make yourself more righteous than what you already are which probably won't do much for you.


"Holiness" is not a requirement for people to promise to love each other. Do you really think you are marrying god or your spouse? Marriage is defined by society, not your cult.


I am not in a cult and don't plan to be. lol Actually any belief of wide range can be considered a cult just like YOU! haha So lets pay no heed to the meaning of words and just dumb ourselves down. I don't like the meaning of something so I am going to change it just because I don't like it. Oh and you are right! My JESUS man doesn't have nothing to do with marriage YESHUA does. JESUS means " PRAISE ZUES" in Hebrew, YESHUA means " Yahweh is Salvation" in Hebrew.


I read your words and am reminded of several cult leaders I've known of in the past. This is besides the point. The point is that NO religion gets to define the laws in my nation. Your Yeshua is no exception. People with your thinking threaten what it means to live in a free and fair society.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Well first off talking about Yahweh and his rule. Yahweh actually will not accept any of those who are homosexual and DO NOT repent for it. Yeshua took upon our sins only if we BELIEVE in him, ACCEPT him as CHRIST, and follow the laws of Yahweh after they understand and know the laws of Yahweh. THAT INCLUDES FOLLOWING HIS LAW NOT JUST BELIEVING AND ACCEPTING HIM AS CHRIST.


Ok... so you are pretty much admitting here that your religious cult should dictate and define our laws? I can point you to a few Islamic nations that currently do that. What you want is a theocracy, not a democracy and definitely not a republic with a constitution.

Do people realize how terrifyingly anti-American philosophies like yours are?


AND YOU are pretty much admitting your religious cult views should dictate and define our laws too!

Furthermore those of the muslim faith is PAGANISM too! I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN JESUS and the catholic faith here.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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You MEAN A THREAT TO YOUR SOCIETY? Your views are views that is it. A meaning of word doesn't CHANGE. so go ahead with your views. There is always a 'but" in America.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Well first off talking about Yahweh and his rule. Yahweh actually will not accept any of those who are homosexual and DO NOT repent for it. Yeshua took upon our sins only if we BELIEVE in him, ACCEPT him as CHRIST, and follow the laws of Yahweh after they understand and know the laws of Yahweh. THAT INCLUDES FOLLOWING HIS LAW NOT JUST BELIEVING AND ACCEPTING HIM AS CHRIST.


Ok... so you are pretty much admitting here that your religious cult should dictate and define our laws? I can point you to a few Islamic nations that currently do that. What you want is a theocracy, not a democracy and definitely not a republic with a constitution.

Do people realize how terrifyingly anti-American philosophies like yours are?



AND YOU are pretty much admitting your religious cult views should dictate and define our laws too!

Furthermore those of the muslim faith is PAGANISM too! I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN JESUS and the catholic faith here.



How are my religious views defining or even influencing the law? The anti-gay marriage argument keeps trying to hang its hat on the crazy idea that religion has something to do with marriage.

There is no way that you cannot see the distinction. There isn't really much anybody else can say to you to make you see it, either. In its simplest terms, you still don't understand the difference. Marriage and religion are mutually exclusive concepts and will remain that way as long as we are a free nation. This is the part you do not understand.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
reply to post by Cuervo
 


You MEAN A THREAT TO YOUR SOCIETY? Your views are views that is it. A meaning of word doesn't CHANGE. so go ahead with your views. There is always a 'but" in America.



So tell me yes or no. Do you think that your religious views should dictate law in a free and fair society such as America?

If your answer is "no", then you must admit that allowing same-sex marriage to be legally recognized is the only American path we can take.

If your answer is "yes", then I stand by my words and feel like you are a threat to a free society.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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both men acted respectfully in the situation. their beliefs may differ, but they both handled it gracefully.
good vid op



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Well first off talking about Yahweh and his rule. Yahweh actually will not accept any of those who are homosexual and DO NOT repent for it. Yeshua took upon our sins only if we BELIEVE in him, ACCEPT him as CHRIST, and follow the laws of Yahweh after they understand and know the laws of Yahweh. THAT INCLUDES FOLLOWING HIS LAW NOT JUST BELIEVING AND ACCEPTING HIM AS CHRIST.


Ok... so you are pretty much admitting here that your religious cult should dictate and define our laws? I can point you to a few Islamic nations that currently do that. What you want is a theocracy, not a democracy and definitely not a republic with a constitution.

Do people realize how terrifyingly anti-American philosophies like yours are?



AND YOU are pretty much admitting your religious cult views should dictate and define our laws too!

Furthermore those of the muslim faith is PAGANISM too! I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN JESUS and the catholic faith here.



How are my religious views defining or even influencing the law? The anti-gay marriage argument keeps trying to hang its hat on the crazy idea that religion has something to do with marriage.

There is no way that you cannot see the distinction. There isn't really much anybody else can say to you to make you see it, either. In its simplest terms, you still don't understand the difference. Marriage and religion are mutually exclusive concepts and will remain that way as long as we are a free nation. This is the part you do not understand.


Your religious views are defining and influencing the law because you want to CHANGE the meaning of marriage and have queer protests for equal RIGHTS. The meaning of a word has nothing to do with someone's right in the sense the meaning of a word the meaning of the word. There for if the meaning of the word marriage is that between a man and a woman that is the meaning. YOU CAN'T CHANGE that meaning. Furthermore marriage was created through what you call a "religion" which is actually a way of life. So this being said they are NOT mutually exclusive concepts.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:17 PM
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WRONG! We were founded and remained a predominately Christian Nation with Christian Values like those in the Ten Commandments up until around the 70s. Regardless of whether your a Dumb-ass Darwinian who believes Mankind are descendants of Apes, Divine Intervention or the Intervention of ETs it is the so called "Religious Morals and Dogmas" that got humanity this far and now that you O So Smart Atheists are climbing out of your closets with your Luciferian Ideas the world is quickly turning to crap. One thing you might want to remember, people who believe in God fought shoot straight and will die for what they believe in..will you smart boy?



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
reply to post by Cuervo
 


You MEAN A THREAT TO YOUR SOCIETY? Your views are views that is it. A meaning of word doesn't CHANGE. so go ahead with your views. There is always a 'but" in America.



So tell me yes or no. Do you think that your religious views should dictate law in a free and fair society such as America?

If your answer is "no", then you must admit that allowing same-sex marriage to be legally recognized is the only American path we can take.

If your answer is "yes", then I stand by my words and feel like you are a threat to a free society.


YES I DO, JUST AS I DO WITH YOURS. I feel the same way about you and feel you are a threat to "free society." I guess you'd rather have Sharia Law?



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Furthermore those of the muslim faith is PAGANISM too!


Incorrect. You clearly have a poor understanding of Paganism, which refers to polytheistic and/or indigenous religions.

Islam is an offshoot variant of your own faith. You worship the same God through different prophets.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Your religious views are defining and influencing the law because you want to CHANGE the meaning of marriage and have queer protests for equal RIGHTS. The meaning of a word has nothing to do with someone's right in the sense the meaning of a word the meaning of the word. There for if the meaning of the word marriage is that between a man and a woman that is the meaning. YOU CAN'T CHANGE that meaning. Furthermore marriage was created through what you call a "religion" which is actually a way of life. So this being said they are NOT mutually exclusive concepts.


That's what I was afraid of. You think that your religion is the authority on defining English words. Personally, I like to look towards things like history and the dictionary... you know, things based in reality.

Oxford's definition:

Definition of marriage noun 1the formal union of a man and a woman, typically as recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife: she has three children from a previous marriage [mass noun] the state of being married: women want equality in marriage (in some jurisdictions) a union between partners of the same sex. 2a combination or mixture of elements: her music is a marriage of funk, jazz, and hip hop


Webster's definition:

Definition of MARRIAGE 1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage 2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities 3 : an intimate or close union


Not only does it include same-sex genders but I also see no mention of any deities, gods, devils, or boogiemen. This is because social contracts between two people predate your religion. You have no argument to make other than a religious one... which cannot be argued when it comes to law in America.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by ruthlesstruth

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
reply to post by Cuervo
 


You MEAN A THREAT TO YOUR SOCIETY? Your views are views that is it. A meaning of word doesn't CHANGE. so go ahead with your views. There is always a 'but" in America.



So tell me yes or no. Do you think that your religious views should dictate law in a free and fair society such as America?

If your answer is "no", then you must admit that allowing same-sex marriage to be legally recognized is the only American path we can take.

If your answer is "yes", then I stand by my words and feel like you are a threat to a free society.


YES I DO, JUST AS I DO WITH YOURS. I feel the same way about you and feel you are a threat to "free society." I guess you'd rather have Sharia Law?


Ok... you have repeatedly demonstrated your inability to grasp what theocracy and Sharia Law actually is. Just to let you know, I'm not responding to your arguments anymore if they are coming from a totalitarian dogma perspective.

I cannot win that argument because it is not based in reality.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by ruthlesstruth
Your religious views are defining and influencing the law because you want to CHANGE the meaning of marriage and have queer protests for equal RIGHTS. The meaning of a word has nothing to do with someone's right in the sense the meaning of a word the meaning of the word. There for if the meaning of the word marriage is that between a man and a woman that is the meaning. YOU CAN'T CHANGE that meaning. Furthermore marriage was created through what you call a "religion" which is actually a way of life. So this being said they are NOT mutually exclusive concepts.


That's what I was afraid of. You think that your religion is the authority on defining English words. Personally, I like to look towards things like history and the dictionary... you know, things based in reality.

Oxford's definition:

Definition of marriage noun 1the formal union of a man and a woman, typically as recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife: she has three children from a previous marriage [mass noun] the state of being married: women want equality in marriage (in some jurisdictions) a union between partners of the same sex. 2a combination or mixture of elements: her music is a marriage of funk, jazz, and hip hop


Webster's definition:

Definition of MARRIAGE 1 a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage b : the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage 2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities 3 : an intimate or close union


Not only does it include same-sex genders but I also see no mention of any deities, gods, devils, or boogiemen. This is because social contracts between two people predate your religion. You have no argument to make other than a religious one... which cannot be argued when it comes to law in America.


Now I could easily pull out an OLD dictionary and show you the meaning of marriage and if you wanna go that far we can go into other languages. As far as the muslim faith goes.. it is PAGAN if you didn't know christianity and the Islam faith are both of Babylonian descent.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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I am done commenting and have stood my ground. Let yourselves decide what is right, pay no heed to the meaning of words and the TRUTH that lies under FACTS that aren't truly facts, then inevitably you will find yourself confused one day questioning everything you EVER believed.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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He is not very clever, no intuitive, nor perceptive that Romney. Very funny story there Cuervo. I imagine Romney will get beaten very badly, landslide win type of thing for Obama.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Take your no way jose back to massachusetts



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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This vet is a freakin' hero!

Talked more sense in a few minutes than these rotten politicians say in a year!



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by novemberecho
both men acted respectfully in the situation. their beliefs may differ, but they both handled it gracefully.
good vid op



I agree. The vet in the end said he was offended but then admitted he got what he asked for. All he asked for was a yes or no answer and not a debate. He got just that. Despite anyones opinion on the matter at hand the video was handled well by both men. Both stated their beliefs.

Really I am not sure why anyone thought they would get a different reaction from Romney. To my knowledge he has always held that belief and stand.


To be honest though if you think either Dem or Rep is better than the other you are fooling only yourself. Both are a different face no the same coin, both are ruining the country, both should be forced from DC and sent to the labor camps.

Raist





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