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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by wiser3

Originally posted by Labrynth2012
2. If the Gay/Lesbian minority really wants to have a place of their own, they should go start up their own Country with their own LAWS and Live there in peace and not care what the rest of the World thinks. They are not going to change the hearts and minds of this Christian Nation into accepting their ABOMINATION acts that GOD clearly stated was against HIS way of life. Remember that he DESTROYED .... SODOM and GAMORRAH for their decadence.


Where did you get this ridiculous information?

Where did you hear that the Lesbians and Gays want a place of their own?

All we want is to be left alone in peace in the places that we own or rent, as in our homes, our bedrooms!

I couldn't give a flying fart what you do in yours what business of yours is it what I do in mine?


I suggested that they start a country of their own because they aren't happy here in America with they way things are.

If its true that all you want is to be left alone, then maybe you should consider stopping the GAY RIGHTS crap and you would be LEFT ALONE. I'm fine with you here as long as you keep it to yourselves in the privacy of your home. But as I stated earlier, when you take it public, you open yourselves up for prejudice, ridicule, and condemnation. Its on YOU that it happens because you people DO NOT keep it private, forcing the issue PUBLICALLY all the time. I don't care what you do behind closed doors in your own home. That's none of my business.




posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by Labrynth2012

Originally posted by buster2010
reply to post by Labrynth2012
 


Who cares what the bible says? The bible doesn't set the law of this land. Religion is nothing more than a base form of mind control. And if you listen to some of these nutjobs you begin to wonder where the little thing called common sense went.



The MAJORITY of the PEOPLE in the UsA care. This is a CHRISTIAN nation at its core, and heathens do not decide what is right and wrong here. This whole conversation is literally stupid for 2 reasons.

POTUS = President of the United States

1. The POTUS does NOT make LAW. He is the EXECUTIVE who ENFORCES the LAWS made by Congress. So it really doesn't matter much what the PRESIDENT says, believes or thinks. CONGRESS is where this discussion really matters.

2. If the Gay/Lesbian minority really wants to have a place of their own, they should go start up their own Country with their own LAWS and Live there in peace and not care what the rest of the World thinks. They are not going to change the hearts and minds of this Christian Nation into accepting their ABOMINATION acts that GOD clearly stated was against HIS way of life. Remember that he DESTROYED .... SODOM and GAMORRAH for their decadence.


No this is not a Christian nation it is a nation of many faiths that's why the founding fathers said freedom of religion and were against a central faith for this nation. And if you don't like it then pack your bags and move to a Christian nation.

And if you are really against homosexuality as your comments suggest then why are you spouting the Christian crap? I guess people like you overlook how priests have a taste for little boys so not only are they homosexuals they are also pedophiles. The pope is the patron saint of pedophiles because he hides pedos from prosecution. The next time he comes to America he should be arrested and charged under the RICO act.
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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How is this a civil rights issue? Really? It's comments like these that are a slap in the face of minorities and women. Dispite what people may think marrage is not a right. It is either legally recognized or not. You see legal marrage is a privledge in which a couple must get a licsence. Thereby, it is no more of a civil right than getting a driver's licsence. Use your brains people! With that said, I agree that a committed couple should be able to marry, with all the responsibilities and benefits (this includes having to divorce to desolve the marrage). Don't claim it's a civil right it's not. Saying so is the result of brainwashing and propaganda. One can not change thier ethnicity, or change XX chromosomes to XY chromosomes; however, to raise the status of a lifestyle to a civil right? Pfff! Next thing you know, metrosexuals will start claiming rights to Starbucks and manicures. As for homosexual couples..."let them eat cake" and enjoy thier marrage. Now I'm going to exercise a real right, freedom of speech,....Romney is an idiot!



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Labrynth2012

Originally posted by wiser3

Originally posted by Labrynth2012
2. If the Gay/Lesbian minority really wants to have a place of their own, they should go start up their own Country with their own LAWS and Live there in peace and not care what the rest of the World thinks. They are not going to change the hearts and minds of this Christian Nation into accepting their ABOMINATION acts that GOD clearly stated was against HIS way of life. Remember that he DESTROYED .... SODOM and GAMORRAH for their decadence.


Where did you get this ridiculous information?

Where did you hear that the Lesbians and Gays want a place of their own?

All we want is to be left alone in peace in the places that we own or rent, as in our homes, our bedrooms!

I couldn't give a flying fart what you do in yours what business of yours is it what I do in mine?


I suggested that they start a country of their own because they aren't happy here in America with they way things are.

If its true that all you want is to be left alone, then maybe you should consider stopping the GAY RIGHTS crap and you would be LEFT ALONE. I'm fine with you here as long as you keep it to yourselves in the privacy of your home. But as I stated earlier, when you take it public, you open yourselves up for prejudice, ridicule, and condemnation. Its on YOU that it happens because you people DO NOT keep it private, forcing the issue PUBLICALLY all the time. I don't care what you do behind closed doors in your own home. That's none of my business.


I feel the same way about you wearing shirts that are a blend of fabrics... if you want to do that in your own home, grand... try it on the street and expect me to judge you as GOD would... HARSHLY.

Same goes for trimming your beard.

I hate to call on GOD to strike you dead, but buddy, I'm in a calling on god to strike down people dead kinda mood.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Perhaps catering to extremist groups is an election tactic. No abortions, gay or African Americans and poof that whole sector is on your side against....Someone who is African American, baby sat by a transgender person when little, and pro-choice. So pandering to the crowd against those things would seem as a winning ticket
If hate is what it takes, to secure votes it sure says a lot about the GOP. Of course this isn't anything new...just a little clearer under these circumstances.
edit on 7-9-2012 by BigBrotherDarkness because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by Labrynth2012

Originally posted by wiser3

Originally posted by Labrynth2012
2. If the Gay/Lesbian minority really wants to have a place of their own, they should go start up their own Country with their own LAWS and Live there in peace and not care what the rest of the World thinks. They are not going to change the hearts and minds of this Christian Nation into accepting their ABOMINATION acts that GOD clearly stated was against HIS way of life. Remember that he DESTROYED .... SODOM and GAMORRAH for their decadence.


Where did you get this ridiculous information?

Where did you hear that the Lesbians and Gays want a place of their own?

All we want is to be left alone in peace in the places that we own or rent, as in our homes, our bedrooms!

I couldn't give a flying fart what you do in yours what business of yours is it what I do in mine?


I suggested that they start a country of their own because they aren't happy here in America with they way things are.

If its true that all you want is to be left alone, then maybe you should consider stopping the GAY RIGHTS crap and you would be LEFT ALONE. I'm fine with you here as long as you keep it to yourselves in the privacy of your home. But as I stated earlier, when you take it public, you open yourselves up for prejudice, ridicule, and condemnation. Its on YOU that it happens because you people DO NOT keep it private, forcing the issue PUBLICALLY all the time. I don't care what you do behind closed doors in your own home. That's none of my business.


I feel the same way about you wearing shirts that are a blend of fabrics... if you want to do that in your own home, grand... try it on the street and expect me to judge you as GOD would... HARSHLY.

Same goes for trimming your beard.

I hate to call on GOD to strike you dead, but buddy, I'm in a calling on god to strike down people dead kinda mood.


Don't think that every Christian believes the same as the person you quoted. Man may judge the actions of man, but only God can judge the soul of man. When fellow Christians use the word of God as a weapon, it goes aginst the very teachings of Christ. It is also low brow for the poster to use terms such as "you people". /facepalm So with your contentions with those issues I agree with you.

However, if your going to use OT law as your basis of attack, know what your talking about. Judging a culture is just as intolerant as the guy you were quoting. So what did you accomplish? Did this comment advance gay marrage? You lowered yourself to thier level. See that is why people can't take the GLBT community seriously. Cannot even keep a moral highground. /clap



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Why ask permission from government to exercise your rights? You have the right to enter into contracts and associate with whomever you wish. If you want to redefine 'marriage', talk to the church. Who gives a damn what government thinks is marriage. This is a first amendment issue in my opinion.




Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The government has taken a religious stand on defining marriage;(i.e. One man, One Woman).



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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If hate is what it takes, to secure votes it sure says a lot about the GOP.
reply to post by BigBrotherDarkness
 

I'm sorry, I thought that in this country people could have difference of opinon. Don't think the Dems don't use the same tactic.
So much for free speech...just go to sleep and enjoy the orwellian nightmare.




posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by Siberbat

Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by Labrynth2012

Originally posted by wiser3

Originally posted by Labrynth2012
2. If the Gay/Lesbian minority really wants to have a place of their own, they should go start up their own Country with their own LAWS and Live there in peace and not care what the rest of the World thinks. They are not going to change the hearts and minds of this Christian Nation into accepting their ABOMINATION acts that GOD clearly stated was against HIS way of life. Remember that he DESTROYED .... SODOM and GAMORRAH for their decadence.


Where did you get this ridiculous information?

Where did you hear that the Lesbians and Gays want a place of their own?

All we want is to be left alone in peace in the places that we own or rent, as in our homes, our bedrooms!

I couldn't give a flying fart what you do in yours what business of yours is it what I do in mine?


I suggested that they start a country of their own because they aren't happy here in America with they way things are.

If its true that all you want is to be left alone, then maybe you should consider stopping the GAY RIGHTS crap and you would be LEFT ALONE. I'm fine with you here as long as you keep it to yourselves in the privacy of your home. But as I stated earlier, when you take it public, you open yourselves up for prejudice, ridicule, and condemnation. Its on YOU that it happens because you people DO NOT keep it private, forcing the issue PUBLICALLY all the time. I don't care what you do behind closed doors in your own home. That's none of my business.


I feel the same way about you wearing shirts that are a blend of fabrics... if you want to do that in your own home, grand... try it on the street and expect me to judge you as GOD would... HARSHLY.

Same goes for trimming your beard.

I hate to call on GOD to strike you dead, but buddy, I'm in a calling on god to strike down people dead kinda mood.


Don't think that every Christian believes the same as the person you quoted. Man may judge the actions of man, but only God can judge the soul of man. When fellow Christians use the word of God as a weapon, it goes aginst the very teachings of Christ. It is also low brow for the poster to use terms such as "you people". /facepalm So with your contentions with those issues I agree with you.

However, if your going to use OT law as your basis of attack, know what your talking about. Judging a culture is just as intolerant as the guy you were quoting. So what did you accomplish? Did this comment advance gay marrage? You lowered yourself to thier level. See that is why people can't take the GLBT community seriously. Cannot even keep a moral highground. /clap


Actually, no.

I am not a Christian, so I feel no moral qualms judging others. I also have no problem holding people to their own moral code. Natch. If you want to say, "GODS LAW" is the basis for your hatred of the "gay agenda" then you best be prepared to be judged with that same standard.

If you can't hold yourself to that standard than you have no right acting as an arbiter for it.

Easy.

As for trying to disentangle the cultural mores of the OT from the actual moral prescriptions of the Christian god, well... good luck.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by Smack
Why ask permission from government to exercise your rights? You have the right to enter into contracts and associate with whomever you wish. If you want to redefine 'marriage', talk to the church. Who gives a damn what government thinks is marriage. This is a first amendment issue in my opinion.




Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The government has taken a religious stand on defining marriage;(i.e. One man, One Woman).


You right, but in reallity we are not our own persons. That is why we have to get permission to drive, get married, own a business, serve alcohol, ect. We don't make the rules player, but we do have to follow them to play the game.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by Smack
Why ask permission from government to exercise your rights? You have the right to enter into contracts and associate with whomever you wish. If you want to redefine 'marriage', talk to the church. Who gives a damn what government thinks is marriage. This is a first amendment issue in my opinion.




Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The government has taken a religious stand on defining marriage;(i.e. One man, One Woman).


Ah... so when a gay person's spouse wants to see them in the hospital, but can't, due to the law, they should just say, "hey the government can't define who I have the right to marry"... and then... what? Shove past the security?

The fact is that your whole libertarian fantasy crumbles when you ACTUALLY look at the laws of the land...



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by Smack
Why ask permission from government to exercise your rights? You have the right to enter into contracts and associate with whomever you wish. If you want to redefine 'marriage', talk to the church. Who gives a damn what government thinks is marriage. This is a first amendment issue in my opinion.




Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The government has taken a religious stand on defining marriage;(i.e. One man, One Woman).


Ah... so when a gay person's spouse wants to see them in the hospital, but can't, due to the law, they should just say, "hey the government can't define who I have the right to marry"... and then... what? Shove past the security?

The fact is that your whole libertarian fantasy crumbles when you ACTUALLY look at the laws of the land...

Durable Medical Power of Atturney they can do nothing about it and have to let you get access.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by tracehd1

Originally posted by Djayed

Originally posted by LauraM
reply to post by RealSpoke
 
Mitts comment was not hateful and bigoted, but yours was. The marriage of a man and a woman has been the norm since the beginning of time. Had it not been, you probably wouldn't exist. Mitt treated this man with dignity while disagreeing. You should try the same.



Sorry incorrect:
Greeks Married same sex couples.
And if it wasn't natural you wouldn't find it in nature.

This is the same argument that was brought up when a mixed race couple wanted to marry back in the 60's. Just because you do not understand it as being normal doesn't mean it isn't normal.

Is it so hard to accept God made me, and also made me Gay? I am population control, without gays you probably wouldn't be alive right now, our species would have been extinct long ago.


Without gays you probably wouldn't be alive right now? Our species would have been extinct long ago.

Huh? Wha? I think I'm really mis- understanding you. If being Gay was a natural law of humanity....if God " made " gay people, we as a human race would cease to exsist because of that law.

No matter how hard a * Gay Couple * try...they're not reproducing. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that right?

Population control? That's why God made Gay people for population control? Is that what you're saying? That would be ridiculous.

Also...if it wasn't natural you wouldn't find it in nature? Huh? There are gay animals? Because the animals would cease to exsist too. Whatever species you are...it takes a male and a female...harmones of both to create life.
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Gay= population control. We maintain population to avoide using all of our resources. God made gay people to ensure straight people can continue to have babies. So that is natural!

It works the same with animals, you can find homosexual animals in a ton of species (elephants, dogs, cats, flamingoes, and on and on.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by Siberbat

Originally posted by longlostbrother

Originally posted by Smack
Why ask permission from government to exercise your rights? You have the right to enter into contracts and associate with whomever you wish. If you want to redefine 'marriage', talk to the church. Who gives a damn what government thinks is marriage. This is a first amendment issue in my opinion.




Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The government has taken a religious stand on defining marriage;(i.e. One man, One Woman).


Ah... so when a gay person's spouse wants to see them in the hospital, but can't, due to the law, they should just say, "hey the government can't define who I have the right to marry"... and then... what? Shove past the security?

The fact is that your whole libertarian fantasy crumbles when you ACTUALLY look at the laws of the land...

Durable Medical Power of Atturney they can do nothing about it and have to let you get access.


ahh just like straight couples have to do...

And btw., I'm pretty sure that won't work in some states...

www.glad.org...

What about a gay couple jointly adopting a child?

There's so many things that are different for gay couples...



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Siberbat
How is this a civil rights issue? Really? It's comments like these that are a slap in the face of minorities and women. Dispite what people may think marrage is not a right. It is either legally recognized or not. You see legal marrage is a privledge in which a couple must get a licsence. Thereby, it is no more of a civil right than getting a driver's licsence. Use your brains people! With that said, I agree that a committed couple should be able to marry, with all the responsibilities and benefits (this includes having to divorce to desolve the marrage). Don't claim it's a civil right it's not. Saying so is the result of brainwashing and propaganda. One can not change thier ethnicity, or change XX chromosomes to XY chromosomes; however, to raise the status of a lifestyle to a civil right? Pfff! Next thing you know, metrosexuals will start claiming rights to Starbucks and manicures. As for homosexual couples..."let them eat cake" and enjoy thier marrage. Now I'm going to exercise a real right, freedom of speech,....Romney is an idiot!


So wrong, on so many levels.

It is a civil rights issue, and this is what makes it one:
Group: A can do this
Group : B cannot

Both are America citizens, by telling group B they cannot do what Group A can, that makes this a civil rights issue. I did not choose to be gay just as someone does not choose to be black or white. I didn't choose to be called names, to be hated, to be told I am going to hell, or that I am less of a person or do not deserve the same rights as everyone else. I would not choose to be gay, it would be much easier being straight.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Way to twist my words to fit your own narcissistic agenda.


You know nothing about me nor my political beliefs, you made a snap judgement I'd say you're trained very well, your controller program is running right on schedule. SNAP out of it. An observation is all I made; you assume too much therefore, you are no better than those you claim to be better than, you are just more of the same propagating the same agenda you pretend to despise.

It is also an oxymoron to claim free speech and expression of thoughts, while shooting down another exercising those same rights.

Mitt is a trained homophobic; remember the bulling ordeal that caused the victim to commit suicide? I am not for the 1%er Democrat agenda either; but at least they are a bit more tolerant than the 1%er redneck Republicans.
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posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
Mitt Romney is against equal civil rights, he's hateful and bigoted. This really shouldn't surprise anyone, his religion teaches that black people and native americans were cursed with dark skin because of their sins. It also teaches that homosexuality is a product of evil.

edit on 5-9-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)


Something is so important here, SO IMPORTANT !

I don't think that Romney would of ever went on his mission if his parents found out that the book of mormon is a fraud. This is so hurtful to its members! There is a man Simon Southerton a DNA specialist (author of Losing a Lost Tribe) in that book the evidence is overwhelming that the family that left ancient Jerusalem that were supposed to be Hebrew are not in existence in the Americas during the book of mormon time period.

He was a bishop at the time and had been on a mission. But when he found out about how the dna shows asian not hebrew, things are really deceptive all over in the book of mormon. Truly!

Romney has been truly deceived and he doesn't know it.. The LDS church needs to bring out information and scriptural text that is based on TRUTH not fraudulent text. You have at least evidence of bible stories being true in the old world, artifacts, buildings, structures. NOTHING IN THE BOOK OF MORMON ! NOTHING!



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by Smack
Why ask permission from government to exercise your rights? You have the right to enter into contracts and associate with whomever you wish. If you want to redefine 'marriage', talk to the church. Who gives a damn what government thinks is marriage. This is a first amendment issue in my opinion.




Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


The government has taken a religious stand on defining marriage;(i.e. One man, One Woman).


There are probably certain "churches" out there that will marry a man to his horse, certainly a man to a man. You could be the Pope of your own church and perform marriage ceremonies yourself, but they wouldn't be legally recognized. The point is that gays want it legally recognized in order to have the benefits and controls that come with it; next of kin and all of that for financial and medical reasons. Church has nothing to do with it.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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Maybe there needs to be a new word created that can be used for same sex civil unions. How bout gayried, gayriage, to gayry. Call it something different, slip it in one of those 10,000 page bills that should pass with majority consent. Done.

Marriage can be between man and woman, and gayriage can cover everything else.

Both sides win.



posted on Sep, 7 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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I dont feel that this is an issue that should be handled at the Federal level.

If states want to support gay marriage then so be it, if not then so be it. If you want to move to a state that does, then go for it.

The President has much more to worry about than appeasing gays.






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