once the laws are changed for one company, the rest will follow.

australia will become an open house for boat people, illegal immigrants and visa overstayers who abuse the system by taking these jobs from locals and thier higher wage neccesity.

many mines supply thier workers with accomadation, food, transport and staples, fly in/out workers to and from such sites which allows a 24/7 hourly production rate. this is one area, where outsourcing to these lower/slave labour income workers may be seen as viable for cost cutting practices. the worker only needs to be onsite for the duration of thier term basicaly cost free of charge, and then return back to where ever country they come from to spend their dollars.

the magnates still become richer, the jobs for australians still become scarce, the spending still goes overseas.

Originally posted by AussieAmandaC

Originally posted by TRiPWiRE

Originally posted by AussieAmandaC

Big girls are always beautiful by the way.

Not to me they aren't. They can keep telling themselves that but I'm sorry, I just see laziness and greed. That applies whether male or female.

Anyone can get fit. Anyone can eat correctly. Letting your body become so disgustingly obese is not natural and quite frankly, revolting. Coupled with the fact that this woman holds ridiculous amounts of money that is simply not required by a single human just adds to that disgust.

Having worked in 3rd world countries, you should see the looks on the faces of the starving when some lardy-pants comes strolling in. You can almost see those sick with hunger realising that "this person eats more in a day than our whole village gets in a month"... but hey, "big is beautiful", apparently.

Western greed.

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They most certainly do not tell themselves they are beautiful at all, for the most part.

Third world countries aren't starving because there are fat people on the planet man, get a grip.

I never said that was the cause of their plight. Not once. Please don't draw incorrect conclusions from a paragraph of text on a forum. Sigh.

Could it be Western greed or Western conditioning (equally as toxic)? Huh?
Which is it?
Do you atribute any emotional issues with weight either? I guess since you are so unforgiving you wouldn't.

Emotional issues do come into it. Just the same as someone who smokes due to stress. Either way, I've helped quite a number of people with either emotional issues or just plain "I like to eat stuff" issues. Both lost weight with training and diet.

Westerners could do with a big dose of what most other people on the planet have had to endure to survive and then, no, there wouldn't be so many obese people, and families might be closer, like the rich like to play it.
There also wouldn't be the VAST amounts of sickness and disease (in western society) which keep the big money people in employ either, because we are the biggest consumers of medications too, from that conditioning!

I totally agree.

If I wasn't a 'westerner' I would feel sorry for us in the way we have all been played and lead by the nose, to disease and disharmony. You are a classic example.

Not sure what made you come to that conclusion.

FYI 58kg 5"7' get stuffed!

78 KG's 6'7". Why do I have to get stuffed? I'm not even sure why you felt it necessary to post your particular weight. I never referred to YOU as obese. I don't even know you. I tend to try and not draw incorrect conclusions based on a forum post. How about yourself?

Fat is NOT the reason we are in such a mess, and you are one cold fish man.

I've helped train numerous overweight people. I don't treat them like babies but I do help them to the best of my ability. The results speak for themselves. If I'm "one cold fish", why do I go out of my way to assist those who want to be assisted. Either overweight people or the work we have done (repeatedly) with those in 3rd world countries? What have you done that makes you such a "warm fish"...?

its her wealth ..why not pick on bill gates ..or any other rich person..they are in business not welfare.. $2 dollars a day in Africa far exceeds there min wage structure ..so in that respect they are well paid

Originally posted by sitchin
its her wealth ..why not pick on bill gates ..or any other rich person..they are in business not welfare.. $2 dollars a day in Africa far exceeds there min wage structure ..so in that respect they are well paid

Gates has not gone on you tube to spout like she has - stay on topic dude.

Any way - it's pointless arguing with you. I will never get you to see how damaging opinions like yours are. You will never convince me $2 per day is anything less than usury. It holds them in poverty. This has been done all over the world for years. Read some history. These poor people live in conditions you would never accept. Why can't they have a decent wage in order to have the luxuries you enjoy each day? Just so some rich dude can get richer. Open your eyes and see the world for what it is brother! Wake up!!!!! Would you rather see poor poverty stricken starving Africans get an extre few dollars, or people like Reinbitch make a extra few billion? Think about it!!!!

Originally posted by sitchin

regardless of how rich Rinehart is ..her mining business can't compete with under developed nations

If she cant compete in business; she has no busines in business!. Seriously tho, if she needs to stay competetive then she needs to re-think about her business model. When the hamersley ranges become lakes that will be far too late!.

what do you want her to do?,,,run it at a loss? ..if countries are not buying her product she wont be in business very long and that is very bad for thousands of workers who depend on a wage

Workers move jobs, companies go bust for poor management. Thats the capitalist system, Id prefer if we nationalised the resource sector, but I can just tell that idea would be much to your disdain

At the outbreak of the Second World War, two million women were still employed in domestic service. Wages were still only 25p a week in the uk ..

Sorry? the point of that info was to illustrate?

Africa has the potential to be as rich as Britain was during the Victorian era ..$2 dollars a day is a good wage ..

$2 a day is a good wage??? would you work for that?. Also note that Africa is a continent, not a soverign nation--or does Gina have a plan for that too? Is that why she has the Sundance Board shot down??

thats something different all together and is for there own government to sort out

once you get a grasp on very simple economics maybe then u'll understand how business works..

if anything rinehart is helping them out bringing them to Australia and paying them $15 an hour ..but im thinking
your dead against that idea as well

Africa is greatly over populated and are very few job opportunities
they dont have ipods,bigmacs and every tax under the sun to pay like we do...most have there own land,there own cattle and grow there own food.... yes there is poverty mainly due to climate ..

its a different world ..south Africa excluded they have very little infrastructure ... foreign money for the 1st time is been invested in Africa and who knows maybe in a few decades there min wage might be better than ours

countries need time to develop ...china has had the forth sight to invest billions into there infrastructure
its foreign money that has allowed people to work in Africa ...its down to the African government to invest its money back into the people.......

with huge mines now operating in Africa now ,there ability to under cut the opposition i can see Africa becoming very wealthy fairly quickly .. hopefully it will be spent on infrastructure, education, sanitation...buts thats down to government


not Rinehart

Originally posted by sitchin
thats something different all together and is for there own government to sort out

once you get a grasp on very simple economics maybe then u'll understand how business works..

Ok, simple economics... let me see if I get this?

Africa is greatly over populated and are very few job opportunities
they dont have ipods,bigmacs and every tax under the sun to pay like we do...most have there own land,there own cattle and grow there own food.... yes there is poverty mainly due to climate ..

So without tax the government cant invest in infrastructure...

its a different world ..south Africa excluded they have very little infrastructure ... foreign money for the 1st time is been invested in Africa and who knows maybe in a few decades there min wage might be better than ours

countries need time to develop ...china has had the forth sight to invest billions into there infrastructure
its foreign money that has allowed people to work in Africa ...its down to the African government to invest its money back into the people.......

with huge mines now operating in Africa now ,there ability to under cut the opposition i can see Africa becoming very wealthy fairly quickly .. hopefully it will be spent on infrastructure, education, sanitation...buts thats down to government

Revenue derived from tax?

not Rinehart

Right....

So when Gina is complaining about the Resources Rent Tax or the Emissions Trading Scheme, she is helping the economy by???

I never got economics as you can see.

Originally posted by 12voltz
Well then ,import hundreds of thousands of African workers to go down and work in the pits for 2 dollars a day
And at the end of the week they will be able to buy 1.5 happy meals..
This mouth was not made for talking.

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If they work in Australia, they'll still have to be paid Australian minimum wages.

The only way that she can pay African workers $2 a day is if she employs them in Africa. She'll probably be able to get away with $1.

This type of statement from the 1% makes me wanna throw up.