Originally posted by Dizrael

Originally posted by gostr
Israel shouldnt even exist imo.

dumbest, unthoughtful thing ive heard in a bit... doesnt take any brain cells to say something so ignorant. why not put a little thought process into it?

maybe give a reason for your beliefs/opinions? or are you just trolling?

Originally posted by SubTruth

Originally posted by gostr
Missle defense dome? ...so what is going to stop someone from walking a dirty bomb into it.

Israel shouldnt even exist imo.

Why should Israel not exist? That is kinda NUTS don't ya think? Every nation has good a bad people why paint with such large brush strokes? Your hate is blinding you.

Originally posted by Allegorical
They turned it on because they know what they are about to do will have consequences.

Originally posted by larphillips

Originally posted by Iron7

Originally posted by SubTruth

Originally posted by Iron7
The American foreign policy is "Israel First"

Last time I checked Israel was a ally and Iran is not? Who should we put first Iran? Dont get me wrong I think they are all kinda nuts but at least people have basic human rights in Israel.

Aiding Israel creates enemies for the United States. It is not in our interest to protect it. And we do, they are the biggest recipient of "foreign aid" (most of that goes to their military)

Israel is the one that invaded ...

Actually no. You've got to look at the bigger picture in a strategic sense. All of those Muslim countries hate one another. Hell, all the various tribes and sects within those countries hate each other. Once the region became invaluable to the west due to their massive oil reserves, the west intervened in order to secure some semblance of stability. They started by propping up puppet dictators and royal families. They needed both the symbolism of a monarchy, as well as ruthless strongmen, in order to reign in their subjects. A boot to the neck was what was required to keep the populace at bay and focused on the task of building, maintaining, and securing the oil industry and infrastructure.

Now, in order to keep the peace between the dictators and royals, a common enemy was required, one that any Muslim would hate much more than their fellow Muslims. Israel became the perfect focus point for that. A weak or easily dominated Israel would do very little good in the region, so the west saw to it that Israel was very strong and very well-funded and well trained. A strong Israel became both the perfect deterrent as well as the perfect common enemy.

That strategy has worked very well for the past sixty or so years. Was it ultimately unsustainable? Probably, as nothing is infinitely so. But it shouldn't have fallen apart like it has. The fatal error was when the West lost their way with their own strategy. Once they invaded Iraq in the first Gulf War, the balance of power was immediately destabilized in the region. In doing that, and making open allegiances with various nations against other Muslim nations, the once semi-controllable populace was enraged and spinning out of control. Removing Hussein and disbanding his armies further fueled those flames, as well as emboldening Iran, who no longer had to focus on a defensive struggle against their neighbor.

As the west became more zealous in removing their puppet dictators and opening supporting the "Arab spring" movement, these nations took more direct control of their own governments than ever before. The seeds of radicalism sown by the west for decades as a means of control were now growing far beyond the control and direction of the west. The entire house of cards is now about to come tumbling down.

The oil, so vital to the west, is going to either be in play, or the infrastructure so critically damaged, that it may never come back on line the way it has in the past. I believe war is inevitable. The game, so dependent on every angle working with equal strength, is now unbalanced and all the flaws in the plan will come spilling out in very ugly ways. We are now looking at civil wars, regional wars, and international wars all due to spring out of that area.

Now, the strategist in me says that every move in the region since the first Gulf War has been an incredible diplomatic and military error. The conspiracist in me says that this was the plan all along, followed diligently and with great efficiency by the NWO crowd. If the intention is to control a worldwide populace, nothing better than the combined forces of worldwide economic collapse, war, and an immediate closing off of the oil spigot coming from the middle east. Massive mistake, or soon to be a tragic, devastating, and intentional victory? There's no telling. We may never know the full story, even as we start to live through the aftermath. We'll always be kept in the dark.

But at the end of the day, my point is that the very existence of Israel has kept the region relatively stable and, more important to the industrialized nations of the world, kept a never-ending supply of oil rushing into our factories and cars.