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In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a
rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas. The site primarily consists
of Cretaceous rock (75 to 100 million years old). Noticing that this weathered rock
had wood protruding from it, they cracked it open, exposing the hammer head. To
verify that the hammer was made of metal, they cut into one of the beveled sides
with a file. The bright metal in the nick is still there, with no detectable corrosion.
The unusual metallurgy is 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and 0.74% sulfur (no carbon).
Density tests indicate casting exceptional quality.
The density of the iron in a central, cross-sectional plane shows the interior metal
to be very pure, with no bubbles. Modern industry cannot consistently produce iron
castings with this quality, as evidenced by test results that show bubbles and
density variations that have caused pump and valve bodies to break. The handle
eye is partially coalifed with quartz and calcite crystalline inclusions, oval shaped,
and roughly 1" x 1/2".
The site primarily consists of Cretaceous rock (75 to 100 million years old).
discovered a rock, sitting loose on a
rock ledge
Modern industry cannot consistently produce iron castings with this quality
You have to read such things VERY carefully...even if this WAS actually in the older rock,
This is a very condascending way to talk to people, I did read the article carefully and that is why I have stated my point of view
Also, if u dont believe in advanced ancient civilisations,
Also, the article states that the rock found with the hammer inside was weathered, which would seem to indicate the rock having been weathered over a long period of time as weathering does not happen over night.
Also if the rocks appearance did differ from the surrounding rocks, then it would have been mentioned in the article. But it wasnt, so your just offering wild conjecture on that 1
what makes u think our technology or advancements would be found by acrcheologists way off in the future?
Originally posted by radiant_obsidian[/i
Also, if u dont believe in advanced ancient civilisations, then how do you explain the Mayans who had a knowledge of our own solar system and astronomy beyond our own untill the turn of this century, they knew about planets we hadnt even found, and yet they knew this without the aid of any real scientific instruments or telescopes? And they arent the only ones, the egyptians, Messopotamians, Mayans, Incas, Aztecs and Native American Indian tribes had this same understanding of astrology and the planets......so why has it taken us so long to catch up with them if their civilisation ended hundereds and thousands of years ago? Where did these ancient races come from or how did they derive their vast knowledge.
Max Hahn was fishing with his family near London, Texas in June of 1936 when he found a rock with wood protruding from it. When the rock was cracked open, this octagonally shaped iron hammer was exposed. The wood handle appears to be
partially coalified and has quartz and calcite crystalline inclusions. Tests performed at Battelle Laboratory document the hammer's unusual metallurgy: 96% iron, 2.6 % chlorine and 0.74 % sulfur (no carbon). Density tests indicate a casting of exceptional quality.
The enclosing rock contains Lower Cretaceous fossils. It is a concretionary sandstone nodule. The nearby cliff is made up of concretionary sandstone nodules which look exactly like the one encasing the hammer. If this nodule, with the hammer, did indeed come from the nearby cliff, evolutionary theory would have to be abandoned by the intellectually honest. This cliff is part of the Lower Cretaceous Edwards Plateau which evolutionists tell us was formed about 140 million years ago, when dinosaurs roamed the earth. Of course, the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs would destroy evolutionary theory.
The stone is real, and it looks impressive to someone unfamiliar with geological processes. How could a modern artifact be stuck in Ordovician rock? The answer is that the concretion itself is not Ordovician. Minerals in solution can harden around an intrusive object dropped in a crack or simply left on the ground if the source rock (in this case, reportedly Ordovician) is chemically soluble (Cole, 1985).
In order to claim the hammer as a reliable out-of-place artifact, one would need either
1. Convincing documentation that the hammer was once naturally embedded in an ancient rock formation, or
2. Independent scientific evidence indicating a problematic age for the hammer.
So far neither has been provided. The lack of evidence for the first condition has already been acknowledged in creationist accounts. Independent evidence for the hammer's age could be gleaned from a number of methods, including Carbon 14 dating on the wooden handle. If there was no appreciable amount of C14 in it (beyond expected residual contamination) it would imply the hammer was more than 50,000 years old, and if younger than that, C14 could help pinpoint its actual age.
However, for years Baugh refused to allow the hammer to be C14 dated. In an exchange of letters between creationist Walter Brown and Jim Lippard in Creation/Evolution, Brown (1989) suggested that the hammer handle has not been dated because Baugh had three "understandable" conditions for dating it: that it be done with mass spectrometry, that Baugh be present during the dating, and that someone else pay for it. However, Lippard countered that no one has objected to the first two conditions, and that Baugh had no right to expect the third, since he's the one making the claims, and thus the one obligated to back them up. Even so, even after others offered to pay for the dating, Baugh declined to have it done. As Day (1991) wrote in a follow up letter: "Far from being 'understandable,' Baugh's stipulations seem to be little short of evasive tactics...If four years have gone by and nothing has happened, I think it is safe to conclude that Baugh has no interest whatsoever in determining the truth about his marvelous hammer."
ok lets say the hammer si for real the wood would have been petrified by now, there is NO WAY wood can last 60 milions of years (in its original form) (well maybe in ice but I doubt it)
Originally posted by radiant_obsidian
In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a
rock ledge[...]this weathered rock
had wood protruding from it, they cracked it open, exposing the hammer head.
The unusual metallurgy is 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and 0.74% sulfur (no carbon).
Density tests indicate casting exceptional quality.
My belief is that our race is much older than we know or can scientifically prove, this is not the first time that humans have dominated the planet.
Half a million years is a long time for a cataclysm or great flood, or even meteor shower to happen. read the bible
The article link is below.
what makes u think our technology or advancements would be found by acrcheologists way off in the future?
Take a look at the amount of nukes we have around the world, easily enough to destroy the planet, or any evidence we were ever hear.
Whats to say some of our larger meteor strikes such as the chixiclub would not have this same effect in the past??
Or the great flood as described in the bible and sumerian texts.
how do you explain the Mayans who had a knowledge of our own solar system and astronomy beyond our own untill the turn of this century, they knew about planets we hadnt even found
yet they knew this without the aid of any real scientific instruments or telescopes?
the egyptians, Messopotamians, Mayans, Incas, Aztecs and Native American Indian tribes had this same understanding of astrology and the planets
Where did these ancient races come from or how did they derive their vast knowledge.
Also if the rocks appearance did differ from the surrounding rocks, then it would have been mentioned in the article.
kix
Oh my John Titor found his long lost hammer
What does u think would survive 100 million years to be found now?
Good question. Stories high stone and metal structures, miles and miles of concrete roadways, plastics that will last millions of years in the same state, dams, bridges, the Panama Canal, etc. etc. (Need I go on?) Even in an all out nuclear war, evidence of all of these would be found thousands of years into the future, so no, there'd be no doubt as to our level of advancement. Hence the crux of my argument... If they were more advanced, this would be EASY to see, not difficult.
The sphinx is between 3 and 15,000 years old-depending on who you ask. It has been covered and uncovered several times in our very short recorded history. It has also be repaired several times. What shape do you think it would be in now, if never repaired and or not uncovered?
They pyramids are said to be in the same age range. Look how badly decayed they are after only 3-15,000 years. What do u think they would look like after 100,000 years of no repair. What about a million. What about 10 million. What about 100 million...............