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Steven Greer's "disclosure" about Armstrong's last words on the moon landing

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posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Was browsing the interwebs today, and Steven Greer's name popped up, yet again. We all know Steven Greer as the figurehead for the alien disclosure movement. He is also, by the opinion of many, a money hungry disinformationist who uses peoples donations for things like expeditions in search of ufos for a hefty fee. He also has told others that he has examined an alien - to which no evidence has ever been brought forth to date. In this press release he describes meeting Neil Armstrong as well as other astronauts at the start of his disclosure movement, and parlays what are supposed to be Neil Armstrong's final statements about what was encountered by him and fellow astronauts after the moon landing in 1969.




Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon, passed away this weekend at age 82. Many have asked if Armstrong took with him the secrets of what really happened during the famed 1969 Lunar Landing. Well, yes- and no. Over the years, I have gotten to know a number of astronauts- and very close family members and friends of astronauts. As you may recall, my uncle was the senior project engineer for Grumman (now Northrop Grumman) that built the Lunar Module, that landed on the moon in July of 1969. The truth of that historic event has never been told. We did go to the moon- but the events that transpired were kept secret and officially remain secret to this day.






Well it happened. Close friends and very close family members of both Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin have separately told me that indeed there were numerous, large UFOs around the crater where the Lunar Module landed and that these were seen by both Armstrong and Aldrin. I have also spoken to military officers that have seen the footage of this event- but it has never been made public. One close family member of Buzz Aldrin told me “It is not my place to out Buzz on this- someday if he can speak about it, he will…”



He goes on to further state the peril of making known the true punishment for Neil Armstrong if such truth were to ever be disclosed.




Neil Armstrong became somewhat of a recluse after the moon landing, and rarely spoke of the historic event. His friends and family have told me that this is because he was a man of such integrity that he simply did not want to be put in a position to lie to the public about such a momentous encounter. How tragic that our heroes have been placed in this untenable situation! When we were organizing The Disclosure Project a few years ago, I asked one of Neil Armstrong’s friends if Armstrong would come to Washington to brief members of Congress at the 1997 Congressional briefing we organized in April of that year. I was told that Armstrong wished he could –but that if he spoke about what really happened during the moon landing, that Neil Armstrong, his wife, and children would all be killed. It was put to me this bluntly.



The rest of his statements on this subject can be found here.
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So, is it just me, or is Steven Greer using the unfortunate death of Neil Armstrong to yet again, further his agenda? In my opinion this man has not a shred of credibility for any of his bizarre claims, and is indeed someone that uses peoples contributions only to make himself money. It definitely seems to me that he is using Neil Armstrong's death as a means to garner credibility for his disclosure movement and as a means to pull more money into his pocket.
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posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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any friends or family of Armstrong disputing his claims?


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posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Of course Greer is using the fact that Armstong has died, to further his money grubbing agenda...It's not like Armstrong is around to deny anything that flies out of Greer's pie hole.....is he.....


Des



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Good point. To me, I think it's ridiculous and distasteful to use a mans death as a way to further an agenda. Greer has made some absurd claims and this is just a way to re-establish legitimacy to his disclosure movement in my eyes. I know I would not pay $3,000 to poke around in the woods looking for "invisible ufos."



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Yet more lies out of the mouth of "Dr" Steven Grease-ball, such a low form of scum that he uses an international hero's death for his own money grabbing exploits.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
any friends or family of Armstrong disputing his claims?


Any who would dispute Greer's claims would of course be dismissed by Greer as not one of his sources for this info.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Nice job, Rubicant13. On target point, well-written statement and relevant source material. Greer hurts all of us who love ufology by his disregard for truth.

I think you have a bright future here at ATS.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Todzer
Yet more lies out of the mouth of "Dr" Steven Grease-ball, such a low form of scum that he uses an international hero's death for his own money grabbing exploits.


Dr.*cough* Greer, has no shame. If he can staple a dollar sign to a Hero's death, or a lie...staple he will, with gusto.

Des



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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A money grubber plain and simple...Once someone is dead you can say he said all day long!



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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We are told there are aliens by people with no other explanation for whatever they seek.
The group that started saying aliens did anything has to be wrong.
Thus those going along with aliens anything must be wrong as well.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Based on experience, if Greer's dog died he'd post it up on Twitter and send out the emails about how (sob) his dog (may he see the light) was assassinated by black-ops (he was a good dog...sniff) to scare him off.

If you can find it, he did a Coast to Coast show in 2006 about SETI. That show is when he first got off on the Neil Armstrong allegations.

In his own twisted way, he sympathised with Armstrong having to remain silent for the sake of his family.

Beyond all the obvious BS he pumps out, spend a moment and put yourself in his shoes. Try and imagine the mind that creates a lie about someone and rehearses it until it's fluent and ready to go. The stories aren't off the cuff - they take consideration and planning. Now imagine that same mind seeing Armstrong's death and reaching for the keyboard to exploit it.



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Why would they? It's a BS attempt by Greer to push an agenda...why play into his hands?

Greer is a creepy little man with an alarming lack of decency.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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A friend of Greer told me that he has a sexual thing about unicorns and is in fact married to one from venus. A friend of a friend told...
See that's how easy it is to make bs. up. I'm not making it my career thought



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Dr Steven Greer..........

We have the technology to reform him.

We can make him better faster Honester.

ATS I bring you the Six Million Dollar Man.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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You have got to be kidding. This guy is a piece of work. How dare he shame Neil Armstrong by making these bogus claims. Greer is a sleazeball of the highest caliber.




posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by Rubicant13
 


Of course Greer is using the fact that Armstong has died, to further his money grubbing agenda...It's not like Armstrong is around to deny anything that flies out of Greer's pie hole.....is he.....


Des


Of course people have their own agenda.. but it doesnt take a genius to understand that you probably only have a small portion of the TRUE story of what took place on the moon (& what lives there).


Hey, most folks can't handle the truth, so they play intellectual games with it. pfft..



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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I wonder if this may be a topic he will bring up at his Southern California conference...



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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I will be honest. I would not doubt it in the least blackmetalmist. Steven Greer has a way of using other people's material or in this case, death, for his own benefit.
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posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by survival

Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by Rubicant13
 


Of course Greer is using the fact that Armstong has died, to further his money grubbing agenda...It's not like Armstrong is around to deny anything that flies out of Greer's pie hole.....is he.....


Des


Of course people have their own agenda.. but it doesnt take a genius to understand that you probably only have a small portion of the TRUE story of what took place on the moon (& what lives there).


Hey, most folks can't handle the truth, so they play intellectual games with it. pfft..



I was unaware of this thread being a discussion on my beliefs of what may or may not be regarding the moon, but Greer's bad habit of putting words in other people's mouths. BTW, my personal thoughts on the moon would probably put me in the bat-poop crazy category.

Let's get back on topic...yes?

Des





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