I Changed Party Affiliation Today

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posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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After 25 years of voting (mostly) Republican, today I have changed my official party affiliation on our state's website to "Unaffiliated". After the latest shenanigans at the convention with the rules changes, obstruction of delegates, and scripted votes against the will of the delegates, I have had it.

So from this day forward I am an unaffiliated, libertarian-minded, fiscal and social conservative.
edit on 9/5/12 by AnonymousCitizen because: typo




posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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I thought you were gonna say you switched from Republican to Democrat...Which would have meant you did nothing. lol
Good on ya for going with unaffilliated-



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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Good for you... although I'm astounded that anyone with any capacity for critical thinking would still have an affiliation with either party. Are they going to have to start eating babies on live TV before people start to 'get it'?



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:07 AM
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Welcome to the unaffiliated!
THIS is what I would love to see. More and more people dropping away from the parties! People say, don't vote - it doesn't matter... I say don't join a team! Imagine how confused they'd be if they couldn't count on us for one "team" or the other! They might actually have to put forth some REAL SOLUTIONS instead of pandering to their party.

Ah, I can dream...

Congratulations!
edit on 9/5/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
After 25 years of voting (mostly) Republican, today I have changed my official party affiliation on our state's website to "Unaffiliated".

Good for you. Last federal election up here, I didn't vote my party membership because they didn't deserve my vote...mind you I ended up voting for the pinkoes (sorry...I mean Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition) so I may not get a pat on the back in response from you.


It's time they all stopped taking us for granted. Or worse - for idiots.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Personally switched affiliations after Obama got the Dem nomination the first time (Far to little political exp, freshman senator spending his first term trying to be President, how bout you do the job you where elected to first) after a life time of being a SO ca dem...

After the RNC convention shenanigans I have sworn to vote third party even if my vote is thrown away no matter what.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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I propose we all join a new party to combat the New World Order party.

That would be the Anarchist party



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Sinny
I propose we all join a new party to combat the New World Order party.

That would be the Anarchist party


Anarchist Party...interesting...though its very formation it would be anti-anarchist. Sort of like creating the Church of Atheists.

That little hiccup aside, it would be an interesting party to join.

1) no meetings or conventions
2) no candidate nominations
3) no political platform
4) no dues or contributions to make

Of course, since it would never run any candidates in any elections, it would never gain any power or influence...which is sort of the point I suppose, but would mean the other parties with stated goals and agendas would continue to run things.

Somewhat comical, really, to contemplate...



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Good on you.


I've thought about doing that in the past but, my state only allows people to vote in the primaries for the party they are registered in.


In order for me to have any say, I have to remain trapped in their two party fiasco.

This year, I'm thinking about writing in Cthulhu for my vote. I'm sick of voting for the lesser evil and want to send them the message that their two party facade ain't fooling me anymore.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Or we could put some meat on the bones of the National Guillotine Party!



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Fresh out of High School I labeled myself as a democrat but am now proud to say I am changing officially to being "unaffiliated" as well! Glad to be around like-minded people. :-)



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by jtma508
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Or we could put some meat on the bones of the National Guillotine Party!


One thing is for sure...the start of a real solution would be the creation of a credible 3rd Party alternative...that would have some chance of actually winning seats in Congress (or eventually the Presidency). That alone is difficult enough to do, obviously.

The next trick would be to somehow prevent that new Party-in-power, or the people in it, from becoming as corrupt(able) as the ones in the existing Parties.

The National Guillotine Party will likely want to consider a slightly different approach, in terms of imagery, if it hopes to attract more than fringe participation. Ok...it needs to scrap the name, logo, and try again. But that's just MHO....

How about the Constitution Protection Party (CPP)...or the Rights & Freedoms Party (RFP)...or the Founding Fathers Principles Party (FFPP)? You could replace the lopping-off-the-heads-of-opponents visual impression, perhaps, by somewhat more reassuring patriotic imagery.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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let me ask you this, "DOES YOUR NEW PARTY"

know how to write a budget?
know how to deal with lobbyists?
know how to write laws?
know what to do with all the working people in government?...fire all? fire some? fire no one? how would you choose?
have enough law school knowledge on how laws actually work? or affect an entire nation? or the consequences of those laws?
have enough financially intelligent people, to know the finances of america, and how those work?
would you protect the enviorment, or even know how to?
would you protect workers, or just let business screw them without regulations?
what happens to the debt?...got any good plans without destroying the dollar?
would you allow women to have abortions?...or...just put all those women in jail?
what if business wanted to lower the minimum wage, would you go along with it?
would you cancel medicare? social security? stop education money from going to the states?

this is a country of over 300 million peoplethat needs efficient, thoughtful, intelligent people to run it, it's not like changing the poker rules on beer night in your garage.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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I am not sure who you were directly this to, but let's take a stab at it...


Originally posted by jimmyx
let me ask you this, "DOES YOUR NEW PARTY"

know how to write a budget?

Well, of course it does...well, to a large extent, it will rely on the expertise and recommendations of the various branches of Government (and the Accounting Office), as they pass their own planning documents forward in the normal budgetary process...which will then be sent back down the line for consideration and changes, based on the overall targets established...and various policy directions the Government wants to take.

know how to deal with lobbyists?

Sure...outlaw them.

know how to write laws?

Of course. The bureaucracy has about a gazillion lawyers who know how and where to apply all of the "whereas"'s and "notwithstanding"'s. We won't fire all of them.

know what to do with all the working people in government?...fire all? fire some? fire no one? how would you choose?

Fire some. Which ones, we'll decide later.

have enough law school knowledge on how laws actually work? or affect an entire nation? or the consequences of those laws?

See above

have enough financially intelligent people, to know the finances of america, and how those work?

When one forms a new government...the bureaucracy does not disband. Plus, there are plenty of financially intelligent people around who can be hired into advisory positions, for policy-level decisions. No different than now.

would you protect the enviorment, or even know how to?

Yes, my party would protect the environment in some rational non-business-eradicating fashion. Al Gore would not be invited to submit his "ideas" though...

would you protect workers, or just let business screw them without regulations?

Yes, within reason, protect workers.

what happens to the debt?...got any good plans without destroying the dollar?

Well, that's going to be with you for a long time. Step one, balance the budget (even that will take some time). Step two, allow the dollar's value to decline - and penalize Chinese imports, if the Chinese continue to peg to it on the way down - to the point that American goods become competitive again domestically and internationally. Step three, revamp the tax system to encourage businesses to establish themselves - and stay - in America. Step four, take a all reasonable measures to grow the economy such that...eventually...we are running surplus budgets and can begin to pay down the national debt.

would you allow women to have abortions?...or...just put all those women in jail?

Difficult question...and no matter which side we might support...50% of the population would oppose our position. For me, I think it is more of a morals and education issue (ie. promiscuity and protection). Put women in jail for having an abortion? Na....let's not do that...and we'll let the pot smokers out too.

what if business wanted to lower the minimum wage, would you go along with it?

In practical terms, absent unions, workers can do this if they want to...by offering their services as independent contractors (as opposed to as a traditional employee). In the long-run, this is counter-productive as it will erode the middle class...but in the short term, as we are competing with "unfair" trading countries who have extremely low wage rates, and other unfair practices...the American labor market needs the ability to be able to self-correct in order to compete for jobs in a global economy.

would you cancel medicare? social security? stop education money from going to the states?

No, no and no.

this is a country of over 300 million peoplethat needs efficient, thoughtful, intelligent people to run it, it's not like changing the poker rules on beer night in your garage.


Agreed...



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by FortAnthem
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Good on you.


I've thought about doing that in the past but, my state only allows people to vote in the primaries for the party they are registered in.


In order for me to have any say, I have to remain trapped in their two party fiasco.

This year, I'm thinking about writing in Cthulhu for my vote. I'm sick of voting for the lesser evil and want to send them the message that their two party facade ain't fooling me anymore.


That was the reason I stayed affiliated for so long. But now the the GOP has made rule changes that marginalizes anyone but the chosen candi...,er, I mean, presumptive nominee, voting in the primaries has become a exercise in futility.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen
After 25 years of voting (mostly) Republican, today I have changed my official party affiliation on our state's website to "Unaffiliated". After the latest shenanigans at the convention with the rules changes, obstruction of delegates, and scripted votes against the will of the delegates, I have had it.

So from this day forward I am an unaffiliated, libertarian-minded, fiscal and social conservative.


I did the exact same thing after being a registered Republican for 40+ years.

I am a social liberal - fiscal conservative. Other then that it depends on the issue - - I'm kind of Centrist.

I don't know what the GOP is anymore - - except crazy and religious.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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I'd say 90% of new Libertarians
are disgruntled disenchanted Republicans.
Which means they still vote republican.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by sealing
I'd say 90% of new Libertarians
are disgruntled disenchanted Republicans.
Which means they still vote republican.


I don't vote any party line - - haven't for years.

I vote on each issue from an independent viewpoint.



posted on Sep, 5 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Be always, always, careful of the tactic LOSER party will always use - Deny voting, or divide the vote for 3rd parties to split the vote.

A vote is a sacred right of an individual citizen to determine the direction of one's society. When the losing party knows that it will lose the majority, it will call on and encourage ALL not to vote, to dilute swing voters choice.

Enough is enough of being played around. Honor your vote, and support those whom truly and sincerly represents you, regardless if republican or democrat, and not be tools for losers.



posted on Sep, 6 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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I always have fun being a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. If I vote with my heart our economy tanks and people lose their homes, if I vote with my wallet people's rights are taken away.





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