reply to post by Pedro4077
Here is my personal view, for what it's worth.
If nothing else, I would be worried that he is disinterested, enough to minimally apply himself, which is really all that is required for an average
to above average grade. By learning not to apply himself now, he could be at danger for failing to apply himself in future studies or employment.
People have dropped out of school and made a successful career for themselves, but it's not the norm.
Why would my son need to know how to work out the area of an isosceles triangle, scince I left school I have never needed to know the formula.
I've never used many things that I forced myself to learn in school. What I realize now about learning all the useless stuff is this. The effort put
into learning all of this challenging, yet useless stuff, serves to broaden our aptitude for complex problem solving skills. Having put the effort
into learning the formula, to calculate the area of the isosceles triangle, will translate into the gained ability to solve other complex problems.
The more effort put into problem solving, the easier understanding a subsequent solution will become.
Why does he need to know that Ghangis kahn was born in Mongolia around 1155. He married at age 16, but had many wives during his lifetime. Will this
information help him in a Job Interview?
I suspect not. However, back to the value of putting effort into learning. By developing the ability to commit something to memory, and learning to
access the memory, will server him well. While Genghis Kahn may not be a topic for most, if any, job interviews, the overall knowledge pool acquired
will contain something useful for the interview. If nothing else, by learning all this useless knowledge, your son will have the ability to patch
together some bull crap while sitting in the interview hot seat.
Should he stess out over a science test where he must remember the law of gravitation equasion.
Again, the gained problem solving skills and reasoning ability are priceless.
Much of the stuff he learns seems pointless. Once you learn the three R's what is the point of all the useless information.
I guess it depends on what your son aspires to do as a vocation to support himself, and his potential family. If he does not learn to apply himself
now, he may find himself unable to apply himself for vocational or academic higher learning.
Should School take on a different approach? It's not the 1950's anymore
That's right, it's not the 1950s anymore, or even the 1960s. My father graduated high school without the ability to read at even a low level. I
suppose he was lucky to have been drafted into the Marines for the Vietnam War. I suspect, without having been drafted, he would have never had a
long career or retirement of any kind. Here in the 2010s, I see two main paths, other than the jobs requiring extensive education, which can be
chosen for vocation. Those paths are service or technical. Yes, a lot of money can potentially be made in those types of careers, but earning a big
yearly salary from them demands many hours of hard work.
Now, here is why I decided to try to persuade you to encourage your son to apply himself. I was an underachiever in high school. I sought the
minimal learning needed to get by with a C, and in retrospect that required no effort at all. Later, after joining the military, I first realized how
I had failed myself by not applying more effort in school. My ASVAB score showed I had the aptitude to be an avionics engineer. However, it did not
reflect the struggle I found trying to successfully get through the military tech schools I was then required to complete. The problems were directly
caused by my not trying harder to learn how to calculate the area of a triangle and by not trying to commit the life of Genghis Khan to memory. I did
succeed at passing the tech schools, but I worked a lot harder than many of my peers to do it.
Later, when I decided to start pursuing higher education, I found that I had a lot of catching up to do. Getting stuck in remedial classes is one
sure way to feel stupid. At least, it made me feel stupid to have to take them, considering many others didn't. Eventually, I managed to break the
learning barrier, and it became second nature to me. Now I make myself learn something new everyday.
There are other benefits to learning that I found. At one time, I relied on my looks to attract women. Now, I focus on using my knowledge. Women
have appreciated that I could help them learn how to calculate the area of a triangle, or how to understand the equation for the law of gravity.
Besides that, after dating smart women, I have no real attraction for women of low intelligence.
I don't judge intelligence by knowledge, but by aptitude to learn.
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