reply to post by Maigret
. . . so this reference in the Bible does not automatically mean it's a Jewish church!
But it always does, as it turns
. . . the Jews themselves speak of going to Shul . . .
That is a Yiddish word derived from German.
The same way we get the English, school.
All of the promises from God in the Bible are directed to Israel, so Christian theologians who can see
and acknowledge this problem, use the reasoning that they are 'spiritual Israel' so that God's promises then become made to Christians. I believe this
is where Christians are claiming to be 'Jews'...
Those are two different things, between a Jew, and Israel.
If your theory was correct, it wouldn't be used to refer to just one congregation.
"Spiritual Israel" isn't a modern invention by theologians, it is fundamental to Christian belief.
Paul uses the concept to describe how the promise is fulfilled by Jesus, and through him to those who believe in him.
Paul says that the promises were made better.
Physical Israel were promised a piece of real estate, where now it is of the world to come, eternal life.
It has been expanded in terms of both who it includes, and what is the promise itself.
. . . and it is said further along that they will not
have finished going through Israel, which shows their flight will be in a northerly direction . . .
OK, where exactly "further along" does it
The Abomination of Desolation standing in the holy place heralds the start of the Tribulation, which lasts specifically for 1,260
days but it is said these days are shortened, otherwise no flesh would survive . . .
Jesus never mentions the seventy weeks prophecy of Daniel,
just the "the abomination that causes desolation" (2011 NIV).
The days cut short is the siege of Jerusalem, where people were suffering, and how people thought back then, God would be forced to destroy the entire
earth to end such a great suffering. So the main point was more about the intensity of the suffering than it was about a specific number of
. . . points to the fact that there will be survivors on earth during the Day of Wrath . . .
Which already happened in 70
The Son warned in Matthew 24:9 that the Tribulation would be over his name and that his followers would be hated and killed because of it.
That isn't directly connected with the tribulation from the desolation, but was what would happen personally to the very people that he was
talking directly to in that conversation, his disciples. They would be thrown out of the synagogues and beaten and eventually martyred.
Antichrist who stands 'against', as an enemy of the true Messiah, also stands IN his place hiding the true Son of God from common view . .
This is all fantasy because the Bible describes nothing like that.
and the main church guilty of this crime is the Roman Catholic
church which promotes Jesus Christ, Christian deity, God the Son, second person of the Trinity, worshiped as God, as Easter and Christmas, etc.
You are talking about the church, period, because it believes those things, not just the Roman church.
Thus hiding from view the true
Son of God, Yeshua the Messiah, who is kosher Jewish High Priest, who will lead his followers in worship of the one Creator God on the Sabbath and on
the Biblical festivals or holy days.
Jesus was a Jew, and by definition would have been Kosher, or rather kept the various laws that we think
of as Kosher.
The rest is fantasy, including the idea that his "real" name was Yeshua.
To cut a long story short, Satan gives his 'son', the man of perdition
/ beast from the sea, his power, throne and authority. The only RELIGIOUS throne in the world, is the position of Sovereign of the Vatican City... so
this seat/throne of great power and authority is the Synagogue of Satan.
"Son of perdition" doesn't mean son of Satan.
There is no prophecy about a throne, at least in connection with an earthly kingdom ruled by Satan or some sort of antichrist.
There is what looks like a prediction in 2 Thessalonians about someone, a man of sin, in the temple of God, whatever that means.
It is in connection with a "falling away", which is described in Josephus' book, The Wars of the Jews.
You had these rebels who were supposedly the saviors of Israel, who were going to defeat its enemies, but ended up taking over the temple as a
military stronghold and defiled it by using it as a headquarters for strategy planning, right in the holy place.
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