Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Due to the off axis conjoined rotation of Earth and Moon we have the tides which
is due to rotational energy of Earth and nothing to do with gravity or energy from the moon.

So weak are you people.
ED; Yes lets have the origin of these tidal calculations.
These ATS people are up to it.
Ed+: interested in anything from these brainiacs cause spaghetti is not an answer
Ed++: as observational fact any one can see the Moon does not rotate being
locked to Earth's rotational energy or at least told the Moon's side never changes
should get the hint there is no Moon rotation.

edit on 9/8/2012 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)

Where do you people come from!?

You say there is no Moon rotation? This is most obviously FALSE it's a FACT the Moon rotates. If it didn't, we would be able to see the opposite side of the moon. Get two tennis balls, and set them on a table, and orbit one around the other. It's pretty obvious the Moon rotates. If anyone thinks the Moon doesn't rotate, then they must be severely mentally challenged.

Then you say the tides are not affected by gravity from the Moon? Really? In all seriousness I'm not trying to offend you, but are you considered mentally challenged? I only ask because I won't bother arguing with you if your mentally challenged as there is no point. Again, it's a FACT that the Moon's gravity causes the changing of tides. While there are a few other factors that play a few very minor roles, the vast vast majority of the tidal change comes from the MOON! FACT, not some silly badly put together theory like your ideas, this is actual fact.

Originally posted by rickymouse
It's stuck, has been for a very long time. NASA tried crashing a rocket into it to try to get it started but that mission failed miserably. They went up there in the sixties to try to flip what looked like a lightswitch but that didn't work either. I think they found another thing that looks like a switch but the little rovers can't turn it. Maybe it's worn out, nobody greased or oiled the thing for a couple million years now, that's when the aliens came here and started a big colony.

Have they tried turning it off and on again?

Sorry we see no Moon rotation so the Moon does not rotate.
Get your heads back from outer space.
Check out the published article on the energy of the Moon.
It has none not even enough to run a clock.
Or find a counter article.
I didn't read it or pretend to understand it or even attempt to teach any one.
You can read it for yourselves if you seem able and tell me if you are so interested.
Post any fool reason you like I doubt Newton was so confused.
Although he specked out roofing requirements in error until the insurance
companies ran some checks and tightened up the building code.
ED: There is no axis of rotation because it doesn't rotate but the article said
there were innumerable axis to chose from and all do not rotate.
Earth and Moon rotate about an axis 2,000 miles from Earth center and
shown by Newton at some point and thus tides are made.
Look it up its called a common axis or some such scientific term.
ED: Tidal charts are probably empirical to bad no quantum theory holds on them
then everyone would be able to make tidal computations.

Sorry we see no Moon rotation so the Moon does not rotate.

Give it up. Repeating it over and over may make it 'correct' in your head, but not for any one else.

Originally posted by roadgravel

Sorry we see no Moon rotation so the Moon does not rotate.

Give it up. Repeating it over and over may make it 'correct' in your head, but not for any one else.

Check below your dumb post.
Bingo.
Wise up your on ATS.

Can't you see that the moon has a face? It doesn't trust us and doesn't dare look away. Not scientific enough? I can try to spruce it up a bit with scientific words.

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Sorry we see no Moon rotation so the Moon does not rotate.
Get your heads back from outer space.
Check out the published article on the energy of the Moon.
It has none not even enough to run a clock.
Or find a counter article.
I didn't read it or pretend to understand it or even attempt to teach any one.
You can read it for yourselves if you seem able and tell me if you are so interested.
Post any fool reason you like I doubt Newton was so confused.
Although he specked out roofing requirements in error until the insurance
companies ran some checks and tightened up the building code.
ED: There is no axis of rotation because it doesn't rotate but the article said
there were innumerable axis to chose from and all do not rotate.
Earth and Moon rotate about an axis 2,000 miles from Earth center and
shown by Newton at some point and thus tides are made.
Look it up its called a common axis or some such scientific term.
ED: Tidal charts are probably empirical to bad no quantum theory holds on them
then everyone would be able to make tidal computations.

edit on 9/8/2012 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)

LOL you must think that the Sun orbits the Earth still too huh? Or that the Universe revolves around the Earth? Because you say " we see no rotation therefore it doesn't rotate" That's because we see the Moon from the perspective of the Earth. The Earth isn't the center of the Universe. The moon rotates, and the fact that we CAN'T see it do so from the Earth proves this. If we DID see the Moon rotate, that would actually mean it's NOT rotating. How old are you, 12?

You evidently don't know the difference between a celestial body ORBITING and ROTATING

When two bodies are orbiting each other, for instance the Earth and the Moon, or the Earth and the Sun, the smaller object doesn't PERFECTLY orbit the larger one.

There is a point between the two that they both orbit. Meaning, the Moon doesn't really orbit the Earth, the Earth and the Moon both Orbit the same point, that point just happens to be so incredibly close to the Earth's center point that for most intents and purposes the Moon simply orbits the Earth.

This is one of the ways scientists can detect planets orbiting far away stars. Because the planets don't orbit the star, the star and its planets orbit a certain point, so the star appears to wobble, as the star orbits that point. But again, that point is so close to the star it's easy to simply say the planets orbit the star.

It's just like a hammer thrower. As the person rotates around with the hammer orbiting around them, the person doesn't stay stationary and have the hammer orbit around them. The hammer AND the person both orbit around a certain point that is between the hammer and the person's center.

I believe this concept is what the articles you are reading are talking about, not that the Moon doesn't rotate, because the Moon does in FACT rotate.

There is no question, debate, or issue about this. It's observable fact. For the life of me I can't figure out why you keep arguing against this. That's like arguing against an Elephant being larger than a flea. It's fact. It's observable fact. It's logical fact. There is NO way around this. you are WRONG about the moon not rotating, because it DOES

As I said before, if the moon did not rotate, then we WOULD see the far side of the moon. We NEVER see the far side of the moon, because the Moon ROTATES at the same time as it orbits around the Earth. This causes us to never see the far side of the moon.

If the Moon did NOT rotate about its axis, then it would stay stationary, and as it orbits the Earth it would reveal more and more of the far side, half way through its orbit we would see the exact opposite side of the moon.

Since this NEVER happens, we know for a FACT the Moon rotates because of observation.

Since you can get two tennis balls, set them on a table, and test this your self, it's a FACT by testing.

Since if you simply use your mind, and work out the details in your head, you come to the realization that it does in FACT rotate, simply using logic.

You are making yourself appear incredibly foolish. You are wrong. Please accept this, and then try to figure out how you can avoid being wrong in the future.

The other guy in this thread, Assspeaker, at first thought wrongly just like you. Then after reading this thread,realized he was wrong. For some reason you are unable to see the truth, but I hope you will get there eventually.