reply to post by jiggerj
In a universe of infinite size that is billions of years old and a human life span of about 80 years.. I would not be so certain of anything
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by jiggerj
In a universe of infinite size that is billions of years old and a human life span of about 80 years.. I would not be so certain of anything
Originally posted by MamaJ
I just think Jesus at the end of his evolve-ment (atonement) showed and told people on Earth he Transcended time, and did so in real time, to show people there is life after death.
Im not positive... just an opinion, however the opinion is based off many years of study. It would only "complete" the story of Jesus, Adam, and mankind himself. So in my opinion it is only logical from where I stand and what I see and have learned over the years about the "story".
Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by jiggerj
I was not there. So cannot know. Logic and my experience is life tell me that did not happen. I would even place a wager that it did not. But I cannot be certain that it did not happen. The universe is far older than me. I only have limited experience. Logic is a human tool that we use to understand the universe. It is only a tool. It can create models of the universe. They are models. They are not reality itself. Im just trying to say we seem so certain of so much. When really we do not know..

Originally posted by CynicalDrivel
reply to post by jiggerj
Catholics have a habit of attacking the Bible, like this, due to wanting to put the authority in the Pope. Irrelevant of right or wrong, their motivation is very suspect.
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven."
14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless, 15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, 16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.The only caution given about Paul's writing is that it's difficult to understand, and distortable. Christ's teaching was radical, but it was done fairly simply. Paul can be really complicated. Complicated things can be easily abused.
34 But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered themselves together * *. 35 One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, 36 "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" 37 And He said to him, " 'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' 38 "This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 "The second is like it, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' 40 "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."
2 One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. 3 The one who eats is not to regard with contempt the one who does not eat, and the one who does not eat is not to judge the one who eats, for God has accepted him. 4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.This is what I'm talking about. It is the habit of the one who sees a freedom to see the other person as a slave to their own mentality. It is easy to be disgusted with the slow-brainer/no-brainer. It is pretty normal for someone who sees something as a "moral imperative" to want to force the other into following the moral code that they don't believe in. And this was an Apolistic COMMAND to not eat the meat.