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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
not junk science
the 1st succesful sex change was performed by none other than dr "death" mengele
after sacrificing hundreds of fraternal [boy girl] twins he finally managed to exchange their sexes
Originally posted by trysts
Perhaps he was getting a hormonal treatment necessary for a sex change operation, and now it's dangerous for him not to have the operation after the treatment?
The earliest identified recipient of male to female sex reassignment surgery was 'Rudolf (Dora-R). "He took the first step towards changing his sex in 1921, when he had himself castrated, As a result his sexual instinct was enfeebled, but the homosexual tendency, as well as his own feelings, remained the same. This step, however, was not sufficient for him, and he tried to obtain a still greater degree of femininity in his sexual parts. Finally, in 1930, the operation which he himself had attempted at the age of six was performed upon him, that is, the removal of his penis, and six months afterwards the transformation was completed by the grafting of an artificial vagina."
This was followed by Lili Elbe in Berlin during 1930-1931. She started with the removal of the male sex organs, the operation supervised by Dr. Magnus Hirschfeld. Lili went on to have four more subsequent operations that included an unsuccessful uterine transplant, the rejection of which resulted in death. An earlier known recipient of this was Magnus Hirschfeld's housekeeper, but her identity is unclear at this time.
Filmmaker Tanaz Eshaghian discovered that the Iranian government's "solution" for homosexuality is to endorse, and fully pay for, sex reassignment surgery. The leader of Iran's Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, issued a fatwa declaring sex reassignment surgery permissible for "diagnosed transsexuals." Eshaghian's documentary, Be Like Others, chronicles a number of stories of Iranian gay men who feel transitioning is the only way to avoid further persecution, jail and/or execution. The head of Iran's main transsexual organization, Maryam Khatoon Molkara—who convinced Khomeini to issue the fatwa on transsexuality—confirmed that some people who undergo operations are gay rather than transsexual.
Thailand is the country that performs the most sex reassignment surgeries, followed by Iran.
On June 12 2003, European Court of Human Rights judged human rights violation for Van Kück, a German transsexual woman to be refused the pay for gender reassignment surgery as well as hormone replacement therapy relating the Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights as well as the Article 8. This affair is called "Van Kück vs Germany"
I'd highly recommend everyone read the write up of the judge's decision. The prison was certainly violating the eighth ammendment and acting outside their duty of care. The following jumps out:
* The prison fired a first specialist after the specialist claimed the surgery was neccessary
* The prison delibrately hired a Canadian doctor who believed that hormones should not be distributed within a prison, and froze all trans treatments at this stage
* The prison cited 'security' concerns regarding treatment, even going so far as claiming the prisoner would flee
* It was generally concluded the treatment was being denied in fear of controversy
* A new prison commisioner said they would retire rather than provide the treatment
* Another specialist made the same recommendation and was fired with involvement from that commissioner
* The commisioner then (taking a step outside the norm) hired a social worker from a department known to be run by a religious doctor who was well known as having a moral opposition to such surgery ...
* The DOC's trial expert's recent work focused on medical bill procedures. The patient's experts were gender experts.
If you have a problem with this it lays firmly with the prison's choice of defense and current medicine, not with the judge IMO. current medicine, not with the judge IMO.
"There are, then, four principles by which we may determine whether a particular punishment is 'cruel and unusual'."
The "essential predicate" is "that a punishment must not by its severity be degrading to human dignity," especially torture.
"A severe punishment that is obviously inflicted in wholly arbitrary fashion."
"A severe punishment that is clearly and totally rejected throughout society."
"A severe punishment that is patently unnecessary."
Originally posted by VonDoomen
reply to post by jdub297
I wonder how many law abiding citizens out there currently need a medical operation that they cannot afford..
Originally posted by jdub297
Unfortunately, your opinion has nothing to do with the 8th amendment, nor did the prison's actions.
Originally posted by caf1550
They know that if they feel ill or want something like laser eye surgery or even this sex change operation that the state will pay for it.
MA Prisoner Becomes First Inmate To Have Gender-Reassignment Surgery Paid For By State
Originally posted by jdub297
Is this what you want your "corrections" system to pay for?
Based on the sources above, I have no problem with this. It is a 'corrections' system not a 'punishment' system IMO.
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by Pinke
All studies agree that incarceration serves one or more of the following functions:
Retribution, Isolation, Rehabilitation and Deterrence.
Your "8th amendment" overreaching ignores precedent and sociology.
Until the mid-1970s, rehabilitation was a key part of U.S. prison policy. Prisoners were encouraged to develop occupational skills and to resolve psychological problems--such as substance abuse or aggression--that might interfere with their reintegration into society. Indeed, many inmates received court sentences that mandated treatment for such problems.
Since then, however, rehabilitation has taken a back seat to a "get tough on crime" approach that sees punishment as prison's main function, says Haney. The approach has created explosive growth in the prison population, while having at most a modest effect on crime rates.
As a result, the United States now has more than 2 million people in prisons or jails--the equivalent of one in every 142 U.S. residents--and another four to five million people on probation or parole. A higher percentage of the population is involved in the criminal justice system in the United States than in any other developed country.