Observations on being homeless

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation

Originally posted by boomer135

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
This is the biggest BS story I've almost ever heard on here. Sorry not buying it. If indeed you are homeless I can see why as you need some (mental) help.

I dont care if I get in trouble for this....you are a #ing prick. Totally worth breaking T and C for that.


Hes not on here asking for money and stuff. Just saying his personal story. So why would you have a problem with that?

edit on 5-9-2012 by boomer135 because: (no reason given)

Really you believe him? I mean sure he can be telling the truth but do you know how many times the sheep has cried wolf on here? Don't get me wrong I don't want to come off as some heartless bastard but the whole cell phone heart thing is where I think I started to lose his trust.

Is it any skin off your nose? NO

Is it any wild claim like aliens are landing, grab your tinfoil? NO

Does it even affect you at all in your comfortable lifestyle? NO!

What the hell is your beef? Nobody here needs you to believe his story so just move on, pass on by. Comment shouldn't have been necessary.

Maybe the blaming others especially a racial and economic group particularly pushed his buttons ,

when you post on what is a public site , expect many viewpoints imo.

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
This is the biggest BS story I've almost ever heard on here. Sorry not buying it. If indeed you are homeless I can see why as you need some (mental) help.

YOUR words will come back to haunt you when you soon find yourself in the SAME exact position...

No they won't and if they do it will be because of what I (ME, MYSELF, HAWKEYENATION) did. I'd like to think I have a strong enough support group to help. I have family, friends, church, oh and GOD.

reply to post by Wide-Eyes


You've seem to have forgotten where he posted this

An open discussion forum where people post so they can hear others opinion. I'm giving my opinion...so just because I don't agree with what he says so I don't have a right to express my opinion? That's new to me. I understand why people would be mad because of my opinion but it is what it is. Next thing you know you'll be suckered into sending this guy some money. Have fun with that!

Originally posted by Murgatroid
I was homeless in LA years ago, I KNOW what it's like to be harassed constantly.

I have not worked at a job for a couple years so I am very curious about "The Contributor".

edit on 4-9-2012 by Murgatroid because: I felt like it..

What line of work you looking for? I have a network of people all over the US and seriously I would love to help you if I am able to.

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation

Originally posted by boomer135

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
This is the biggest BS story I've almost ever heard on here. Sorry not buying it. If indeed you are homeless I can see why as you need some (mental) help.

I dont care if I get in trouble for this....you are a #ing prick. Totally worth breaking T and C for that.


Hes not on here asking for money and stuff. Just saying his personal story. So why would you have a problem with that?

edit on 5-9-2012 by boomer135 because: (no reason given)

Really you believe him? I mean sure he can be telling the truth but do you know how many times the sheep has cried wolf on here? Don't get me wrong I don't want to come off as some heartless bastard but the whole cell phone heart thing is where I think I started to lose his trust.

I'm just saying that give some people the benefit of the doubt. I've seen lots of homeless people and if it is true then you should keep your negative opinions to yourself. No need to say what you did bro. He might be lying but if he's not how would you feel? Do you know what it's like to be homeless?

And by the way what he's talking about isn't bullcrap....all it takes is loud noise and it can set it off...
electromagnetichealth.org...

www.heartmdinstitute.com...


You can even buy apps that can cause this from apples app store.

^^ I hear ya buddy...when you look at the other items he has posted about they all link to mainly one thing in particular.

Originally posted by strangedays
cont

So im burnt to a crisp being out in the heat. I feel like im barely surviving the 85-95 degree heat daily. I got turned down for a gas station job but left my number with the boss as he said hed try to help me-I really appreciated that. I went into a McDonalds to put in an application but you can only do it online-and now that I can get to internet I dont have a phone they can call me on, it sucks. I asked for old food they might have and the caucasian manager lady said no. Figured it was worth a shot. I hope God crushes this place and that the good people get out, as its only getting worse. Also, ALL MINORITIES have been extremely nice (this changed-had a problem with some latinos the other night). ALL problems for the most part have been created by caucasian people-usually well off ones funny enough. Why do they have all teh $?

So I went back to the library, on a random day last week, and teh exact same guy was there and did the exact same thing to me again. I told him if he put his hands on me again that I was going to beat him up and that putting your hands on someone is assault. The same librarian that kicked me out before actually called teh police on me this time and I was escorted by them out whle she laughed at me. Its humiliating how they set you up and theres nothing you can do about it. I know some people who read this could make some real (completely legal) trouble for this library and since the police wont help (they are completely aware of what goes on and how it works), please use your intarwebz mafia skills to get something done here. Maybe there is some advocate rights group or something someone could get a hold of. I have asked for help from everyone else and it didnt work, so I figure why not try asking here? I figure since this is a world wide connection, I can get this message to the right people who will do something.

As I was walking back to my car (about 5 miles up the road) that im living out of, I noticed people baiting me (the police said I was good and did nothing wrong at the library) with potential crimes. Basically there is a formula to doing this: get the person angry by setting them up, making them feel powerless and wanting justice, then give the person easy ways to "put themselves" in jail. I quote "put themselves" because thats a joke as they set the person up then tell them its their fault. This is how African Americans have been tried and put in jail for false crimes. Because the caucasian man has the money, he has the cops in his pocket, and he/she CAN and HAS falsely setup and hurt innocent people that they baited. They then sit back and laugh at the dinner table talking about how they nailed some "stupid n****r" or "dumb s**c" and how if the victim werent so dumb, they wouldnt be in that position.

cont

Well not that you need it,but you just lost all of my sympathy with post.You're going the blame the white man route,eh? How original.Here's a tip for you..your situation that you are in right now is your own fault.No one elses. So,until YOU take responsibility for YOUR life and quit blaming everyone else,which you clearly are,nothing is going to change for you. I don't care if I get # for saying that,but it's the truth. I wish you luck and hope things change for you.But remember it starts with you.Placing the blame elsewhere does nothing to fix it.

OP I have to say having read all your posts, you are coming across as a kook. Sorry but my bs detector is going off, the language you use is flagging you as either:
(a) Lying to get a bit of sympathy (sorry I've been on line since the early 1990's and I've seen it all) coupled with the race bating (sorry again but the attack on Caucasians as the root of all this evil flagged the whole thing for me as BS). I also call BS on your "cancer" comment.
or
(b) In need of some mental care. I say this not out of malice, but concern. You if truly believing all you post (and perhaps you are), you seem to be divorced from reality. Similarly your Blue/Red "revelations" are simple body language, and that is not infallible either (as you've noted). It's nothing new, it's nothing special.

I've been discriminated on in the USA, by whites and non-whites. By non whites because I am white, and choose to use public transport at times as an ecological choice (why is whitey on this bus? was the common comment). By whites, because my accent is not north american, because I am highly educated, its not like I was stealing any ones job, North Americans tend not to go into the Pharmaceutical industry because it's not glamourous, or highpaying (when compared to the degrees you need to advance). Strangely once I spoke to the nonwhites my accent was an asset ("Oh he's not one of them" sigh still bigoted), but it was a non asset to whites.

So I have to say this, it's a British Commonwealth saying "pull the otherone it's got bells on"

I must have been a poor homeless person. No car, No phone, No time to sit about writing long tales of my pathetic life. You didn't mention places like " Jesus Saves Salvation Army, Homeless shelters or selling Plasma. 2x's per week, Day Labor ( they LOVE guys with a car ) University degree = Temp Services. There is tons of food behind fast food joints and restaurants . It is amazing what they throw away. I spent 10 years on the street and can honestly say I have no clue about 95% of the issues you speak of. Does sharing this info somehow offer you comfort ? I just don't get it Amigo.
I do know one thing. If you are not mentally ill. And you REALLY want to get out. You can !

reply to post by strangedays

Geez all, derail the thread why don't you. To the OP: don't let the banter get you down. I been where you at. Its hard to climb back up once you been down for a while. I know its hard to coexist with "civilized" people once you have been "homeless" a while, you are disheveled, unkempt, your clothes are dirty and you stink. Asking for help at that point will earn you their contempt for sure. You understand how you got where you are, but asking for sympathy or charity from individuals who have beds, showers and refrigerators can be disheartening. You get reminded of their "status" and they shun you.

They shun you because they are afraid of you. They are afraid that they themselves are but a few paychecks from your predicament and don't want to wind up where you are. You represent one possible future and that is scary. Others resent you because you have the one thing they don't: freedom. Freedom from responsibility. Being a member of society is an endless treadmill of slavish work a day pay the bills rigor that most people despise anyway. When they see you not having to do that some become infuriated and want to take it out on you. They are jealous.

You are exactly where you are supposed to be right now. Quit fighting it and go with the flow. There are places you can go to rest up (under hiway bridges or along river banks). They are cool during the day and at night the stored heat keeps you warm. Others are there. Hook up with a friendly group that "take care" of each other. They have "can routes", hitting dumpsters behind restaurants and hotels or apartments for plastic bottles and aluminum cans. They work hard to get enough to take to a recycle center but get paid cash every day. Just enough to eat. Instead of asking establishments for food, wait for them to throw it out. Be there. Others know that time and date too. The grocery stores "have" to throw it out, like the guy said, it messes with their insurance and taxes if they don't. I know, crazy. You can ask stores or bars and liquor stores to break down boxes or give you their bottles and cans. They do that sometimes to save labour. They are used to "homeless" people.

I see you have a spiritual bent. The stuff that happens is bad, but you see that you are also being kept from true harm. You are in the world and the world knows you not. You are in the world but not of it. As in, not a product of the world. You are truly blessed. Revel in that when you close your eyes every night and open them every morning. Have faith. You will be provided for. Look at the birds and lilies of the field. They toil not. Neither do they reap or sow. Yet they are taken care of every day. How much more important are you than they? Now you know what that means. You'll be fine. Your basic needs will be met while you are going thru this part of your life. Don't worry or resist. Just go with it.

Originally posted by boomer135

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation

Originally posted by boomer135

Originally posted by HawkeyeNation
This is the biggest BS story I've almost ever heard on here. Sorry not buying it. If indeed you are homeless I can see why as you need some (mental) help.

I dont care if I get in trouble for this....you are a #ing prick. Totally worth breaking T and C for that.


Hes not on here asking for money and stuff. Just saying his personal story. So why would you have a problem with that?

edit on 5-9-2012 by boomer135 because: (no reason given)

Really you believe him? I mean sure he can be telling the truth but do you know how many times the sheep has cried wolf on here? Don't get me wrong I don't want to come off as some heartless bastard but the whole cell phone heart thing is where I think I started to lose his trust.

I'm just saying that give some people the benefit of the doubt. I've seen lots of homeless people and if it is true then you should keep your negative opinions to yourself. No need to say what you did bro. He might be lying but if he's not how would you feel? Do you know what it's like to be homeless?

And by the way what he's talking about isn't bullcrap....all it takes is loud noise and it can set it off...
electromagnetichealth.org...

www.heartmdinstitute.com...

edit on 5-9-2012 by boomer135 because: (no reason given)

You can even buy apps that can cause this from apples app store.

edit on 5-9-2012 by boomer135 because: (no reason given)

Apple is pretty picky about what they allow in the app store. And an app designed to cause heart attacks would not fly.
Do you have a link or screen shot of one of these "heart attack" apps?

why are people mixing up the emotional human side of the story, wich is the dire outcome of homeless, with the other bits and pieces of that story wich in fact the OP seems to display anxiety, extreme paranoia and feelings of persecution. and i mean not the general isolation and harrassment society does place on the homeless, the OP is saying he's somehow is being singled out for "cell phone attacks" "chemically induced cancers" "some dust "they" use" and some unspecified "RED" concept.
seriously its not that hard to concieve some will doubt and question not only the story but also OP's mental state.
and if done with respect and no personal attacks is totally legitimate.

i mean after i digested the humane side of the story i couldn't get over the stereotypical "tinfoil" talk, realizing that the poster clearly believes in the things he's talking about.

even going as far as to use the thread as a soapboax to later go on a diatribe about police,racial issues and prejudice, wich however right it may sound, its irrelevant to the main core of the story but seems to be only used to further justify op's own beliefs in that he has been singled out for persecution from what i will assume its some sort of shadow agency.

so while im not doubting that the op may be homeless. im doubting if it really was society isolating him or was it him excluding himself from society due to his strong beliefs, wich im sorry seem to be a stereotypical tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist paranoia.

in my own conspiracy theorist mind i cant even help to consider if this thread wasn't infact even concieved to further reinforce and confirm the status quo stereotype that a CT believes in absurd things and their outcome is poverty and homelessness.

now on a very cold conclusion i doubt op's condition is as serious as claimed.

true i never experienced it for myself thankfully, but i cant help to feel that i would have bigger priorities being homeless than coming to the internet to post about it and make "control threads" as mentioned in the library incident...

sorry but im not seeing the actual poor people of the world in south america, africa and asia making it a priority to come on the internet and namedly ats to tell their stories. even though they maybe should.

because ill say that no one here is poor, i mean we all are on the net paid or not but via devices that are non essential gadgets/luxury items.
if you are starving but still have a computer, smartphone and internet connection you aren't poor, you just obviously have your priorities wrong.

Welcome to the fold, brother. Most people operate on assumptions when they judge the homeless. Personally, I find homeless people to be much more genuine than those with money, because the homeless have nothing to lose when being themselves.

Unfortunately, society and the government force them to resort to alcohol and drugs for consolation, which only enforces the stereotype. I have quite a few homeless friends, and I adore all of them. They are good people who fell on bad times, and a few of them have CHOSEN to be homeless because it teaches them the important stuff about life...

Here's my justification, as stated by Mario Savio:

There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can't take part! You can't even passively take part! And you've got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels…upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop! And you've got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free, the machine will be prevented from working at all!

By refusing to support the system that eats money like a panda eats bamboo, these people have broken the standard and drawn lots of attention. Thing is, they get rousted from their camps by cops and such because it's bad for the public image. Imagine, these people are bereft because no one wants to help them, but the police must preserve the city's image! Heaven forbid, people realize how broken the system is!

Anyway, now you understand what you didn't before. I sincerely hope it doesn't last too long for you (winters can be very rough) but I'm glad you have spent some time being homeless. There's lessons in having nothing that you can't get anywhere else.

S&f.

reply to post by UziLiberman

sorry but im not seeing the actual poor people of the world in south america, africa and asia making it a priority to come on the internet and namedly ats to tell their stories. even though they maybe should.

You mean the ones who are not only illiterate, but live in places where technology is hard to come by? They'd sooner steal the computer to sell for their next meal than waste time typing threads about their lives for people (like you) who won't appreciate it.

reply to post by coop039


Yes, but University of Texas has developed an Xray app whose radiation "unzips" DNA...and cellphones have a similar effect.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by coop039

 

Yes, but University of Texas has developed an Xray app whose radiation "unzips" DNA...and cellphones have a similar effect.

Dude there is the world of difference between the wavelengths (and energies) of cell phones and X-Rays :/ You get to pass through the visible spectrum first to get from one to the other.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Thing is, they get rousted from their camps by cops and such because it's bad for the public image. Imagine, these people are bereft because no one wants to help them, but the police must preserve the city's image! Heaven forbid, people realize how broken the system is!

Cops only go after the homeless when they are told to by the city council as "policing actions" because they are finicky and snooty about the way their city "looks". To potential investors from outside the city, homeless are a "blight" with their unkempt look, shopping carts and camps. A city that allows this "vermin" to exist may not be the place for Mitsubishi to establish a factory.

Cops keep track of the various homeless on their beat, believe it or not to check on their welfare as well to document their activity, in case they turn up dead they know who they are. Yes crime also, but really, homeless people as a rule commit less crime than your local hi school. Police know this. They also buffer over reactive "citizens" who tend to call the police and blame the homeless any time something turns up missing.

Homeless are the most cooperative type of people you may meet. Ever talk to one? They are humble and helpful. Yes they have problems and sometimes thats why they have chosen to be homeless, or been thrust there by society because they are different. But hostile and cleptos they are not. Their position is tenuous and they survive on the good graces of the cops who always remind them that if they get out of line they will be taken to task for it.

Its the cities do-gooders and busy bodies that always paint them in a bad light in the media. People that stuggle their whole lives to get one up on others and so look down on everyone and the homeless are at the bottom of that totem pole. They are the jerks... not people who live "outdoors".

reply to post by intrptr


I am well aware of this. I was simply painting a picture of difficulties that no one would understand unless they lived through it.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

I am well aware of this. I was simply painting a picture of difficulties that no one would understand unless they lived through it.

Yah, just commenting, I guess from that been thru it place. No offense intended...