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Obamacare Destroyed in 6 Minutes

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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Regardless what you think about Paul Ryan you can not overlook the facts about Obamacare. Ryan literally picks apart the bill and explains why the numbers that Obama and crew have been feeding us through the MSM and their hacks are completely bogus.

If we put aside partisanship for 6 minutes and really take a look at the irresponsibility of Obamacare I think we can agree this is bad for our country.




“Independent of the constitutional issues, the health care law is utterly unaffordable—costing $2.6 trillion over the first full ten-year window,” Sessions said in a statement on the Obamacare ruling. “This massive new entitlement program adds $17 trillion in unfunded long-term obligations—more than twice the unfunded obligations of Social Security.”
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Obama has spent more money in 4 years than the first 41 administrations combined! Do we really need more debt now as our economy continues to struggle?? The debt projections are horrible!



Obamacare is a ponzi scheme that will bankrupt the US of A. There is one presidential candidate that we know with 100% certainty WILL NOT repeal Obamacare. I’ll let you figure out who that candidate is….




posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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I can't believe most Democrats don't know that they HAVE TO PAY for OBAMACARE. It's NOT FREE.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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There are TWO candidates who constructed, and got the same Healthcare planned passed,
Paul Ryan is running with one of them.


Unfortunately Ryan and Romney think a better use of money would be using it to start
a hot war in Iran and Syria.

Not to mention that Ryan's plan would be a massive give away to the insurance companies
and it would increase private cost on top of it.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Whats Obamacare? I thought President Obama wanted a single-payer system like Canadia?

Are you refering to the Affordable Health Care Act?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by RELDDIR
I can't believe most Democrats don't know that they HAVE TO PAY for OBAMACARE. It's NOT FREE.


Yes, just like the private insurance market.

I can't believe Republicans don't know they have to pay for WAR and MEDICARE vouchers.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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One in the same, Obama even calls the ACA Obamacare.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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What a one sided video which has been posted many times I might add so it hardly needs yet another thread on it. You notice it cuts the response off I guess the average attention span of the Obama haters is only around six minutes. At least Obamacare it's going to cost the people anywhere near as much privatizing medicare like Ryan wants to do. Good luck in finding a insurance company that will accept those preexisting conditions.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by ErEhWoN
 


One in the same, Obama even calls the ACA Obamacare.


You are right he should have called it Romney care seeing how he copied it from Romney.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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There are TWO candidates who constructed, and got the same Healthcare planned passed,
Paul Ryan is running with one of them.


It’s funny that this argument has any traction because the fundamental difference is purposely overlooked….

Yes, Romneycare was the model for Obamacare. The HUGE ELEPHANT in the room is that Romney did it at the STATE level. Obamacare is the intrusion of the federal government into our lives. States have different authority and power than the federal governemnt. Have you heard of the 10th amendment?

198 of 200 state representatives voted in favor of Romneycare.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Meh... insurance is too expensive. The good news is that now we can all just skip it and pay the fine. It's great to know that should you come down with something you can always just go and buy a policy and the doctor's will have to treat you. That will be sustainable, right?...



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by thepresident
There are TWO candidates who constructed, and got the same Healthcare planned passed,
Paul Ryan is running with one of them.


Unfortunately Ryan and Romney think a better use of money would be using it to start
a hot war in Iran and Syria.

Not to mention that Ryan's plan would be a massive give away to the insurance companies
and it would increase private cost on top of it.



Republicans like to overlook that fact that Ryan's plan would cost on average 6000 bucks more than what people on Medicare pay now. What not everyone inherited a fortune from grandpa like Ryan?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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And remind me again why I should believe one word Paul Ryan has to say?

www.foxnews.com...

On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech. On this measure, while it was Romney who ran the Olympics, Ryan earned the gold.


www.salon.com...

His most brazen lie accused President Obama of “raiding” Medicare by taking the exact same $716 billion that Ryan and the House GOP notoriously voted to slash. It was stunning.

But that’s not all. He attacked Obama for failing to keep open a Janesville GM plant that closed under Bush in 2008. He hit him for a credit-rating downgrade that S&P essentially blamed on GOP intransigence. He claimed that all taxpayers got from the 2009 stimulus was “more debt,” when most got a tax cut (and the stimulus is known to have saved between 1.4 and 3.3 million jobs). He derided the president for walking away from the Simpson Bowles commission deficit-cutting recommendations when Ryan himself, a commission member, voted against those recommendations.

He blamed Obama for a deficit mostly created by programs he himself voted for – from two wars, tax cuts, new Medicare benefits and TARP.


www.ibtimes.com...

It's becoming more obvious that Republican Party vice president nominee U.S. Rep Paul Ryan is having a very hard time telling the truth on political matters. Fact checkers have torn apart his speech at the Republican National Convention for being riddled with lies and half-truths. But apparently Ryan has been lying about something else as well: his marathon time.


The good news is, that so far as I know, he only lies when his mouth is open.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Obama's plan will be an extra $5000 per family in taxes. What is the difference?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
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Obama's plan will be an extra $5000 per family in taxes. What is the difference?


Link please???



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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What a one sided video which has been posted many times I might add so it hardly needs yet another thread on it. You notice it cuts the response off I guess the average attention span of the Obama haters is only around six minutes.


We already know how Obama feels…..it was Obama’s figures Ryan was disputing!


I thought you guys like “fact-checkers”?? Is that only when they are after Ryan and Romney?



At least Obamacare it's going to cost the people anywhere near as much privatizing medicare like Ryan wants to do. Good luck in finding a insurance company that will accept those preexisting conditions.


You can’t call a car insurance company, start a policy, and then have them fix damages that existed prior to your when your coverage began!

Insurance is just that…..its insurance! If you think Obamacare is different then call it what it is…socialized medicine!



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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by thepresident
There are TWO candidates who constructed, and got the same Healthcare planned passed,
Paul Ryan is running with one of them.


Unfortunately Ryan and Romney think a better use of money would be using it to start
a hot war in Iran and Syria.

Not to mention that Ryan's plan would be a massive give away to the insurance companies
and it would increase private cost on top of it.



Republicans like to overlook that fact that Ryan's plan would cost on average 6000 bucks more than what people on Medicare pay now. What not everyone inherited a fortune from grandpa like Ryan?


And it would flood the market with TAX money they stole from me and my hard work.

He lies about his real intent, that is what is sick



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by buster2010
 


Meh... insurance is too expensive. The good news is that now we can all just skip it and pay the fine. It's great to know that should you come down with something you can always just go and buy a policy and the doctor's will have to treat you. That will be sustainable, right?...


Maybe you should ask Romney he is the one that came up with it. Just like he said taxes wouldn't go up but guess what they did.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by thepresident
 



There are TWO candidates who constructed, and got the same Healthcare planned passed,
Paul Ryan is running with one of them.


It’s funny that this argument has any traction because the fundamental difference is purposely overlooked….

Yes, Romneycare was the model for Obamacare. The HUGE ELEPHANT in the room is that Romney did it at the STATE level. Obamacare is the intrusion of the federal government into our lives. States have different authority and power than the federal governemnt. Have you heard of the 10th amendment?

198 of 200 state representatives voted in favor of Romneycare.


Uh, "Obamacare" is based on the model Newt Gingrich and the Republicans sought at the
Federal level.


Don't you get tired of defending hypocrites who are only "conservative" when they talk?

You are becoming one of them, because your actions are to get a neocon and an Elite
East Coast liberal into office.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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But MOOOOOOOMMMMMM he did it toooooooo!!!!

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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by seabag


Insurance is just that…..its insurance! If you think Obamacare is different then call it what it is…socialized medicine!






WTF?



Obama keeps the private market in tact.

If "Obamacare" is socialist, then so is Romneycare"



Do you even care if what you say is the truth?

Or is the point to shut your ears and eyes and press on?




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