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Originally posted by Flatfish
reply to post by Bilk22
I just had to say that I disagree with almost every word you wrote and IMO, It's ideology like yours that is the problem. It sounds as if you're more concerned with dictating what the poor can spend their money on than finding a way to meet their basic needs. By the way, can you still actually buy a t.v. other than a flat screen nowadays?
Furthermore, the extreme lack of accountability and personal responsibility you speak of is much more prevalent among the wealthy elite than it ever was among the poor and needy. That's why no one has gone to jail for the nation's economic collapse while poor people go to jail every day.
No one is trying to remove capitalism here, they're only making the argument that basic needs and services should be provided on a not-for-profit basis while you're contending that if they own a t.v. or a pair of shoes, then they don't need help. What a joke!
Originally posted by Bilk22
OK let's use your metric here. How do we further help them meet their "basic needs"? What have we not done or what can we do better? Educate? Well we've lowered the standards so far, we're not educating any longer. What else can we do? What do you think will solve the problem?
Oh I don't disagree with what you said about "the elite". We're in the middle. Oh some would claim I'm rich, but it's all a matter of definition, isn't it?. Maybe some would same the same about you. So do we first need to draw lines? Is that what the problem is? Do we need lines in the sand to clearly define who has what so we can forcibly take from them what is theirs? It's coming to that. You may be on the wrong side of the line too.
The ironic thing about Obama's presidency is he is the perfect counter argument to all the class warfare BS yet the MSM never points that out. Thankfully the RNC convention did a good job of illustrating that point. Maybe it gave people hope that they too can rise to be a governor of a state or even secretary of state if not the president. People want a share of the American dream yet don't want to work toward that. They want it handed to them.