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UFOs: Just Lights in the Sky or Mechanical Craft From Elsewhere? Cases Proving UFOs are Artificial

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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:28 AM
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Far from the “vague lights in the sky” stereotype so commonly used by UFO debunkers, UFO sighting reports often detail close range encounters with very solid machine-like craft. Mechanical objects displaying true mastery of flight; able to hover, accelerate instantly to extreme speeds, and evade Air Force interceptor jets with ease. The following six UFO cases represent a small portion of such reports, proving at least in my own mind that the true unexplained UFO phenomenon is surely artificial, whether ET or otherwise.

Case #1

Pelotas, Brazil - October 5, 1996:






Brazilian pilot Haroldo Westendorf, 39, was flying over Pelotas when he encountered an enormous pyramid or cone shaped UFO, with 8-10 sides; it was 100 meters in diameter and 70 meters high. Westendorf was able to fly around the base of the object three times, at one point coming as close as 40 meters. Then, out of an opening at the top of the craft, a smaller classic disc-shaped UFO emerged and flew off at tremendous speed. Three air traffic controllers and others on the ground also witnessed the event.


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Lights in the sky? Or a giant pyramid shaped craft displaying incredible aerodynamic capabilities?

Case #2


Cowichan, Canada, 1970:





"The object was circular and had what I guess you would call a top and bottom. The bottom was silvery, like metal, and was shaped like a bowl. There was a string of bright lights around it like a necklace. The top was a dome made of something like glass. It was lit up from inside and I could see right into it."
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Case #3


Disc emmitting high-pitched whine maneuvered around farm,frightened animals






This object, seen very clearly and distinctly at close range, consisted of a base approximately eight feet wide appearing like two saucers placed edge-to-edge, surmounted by a dome about four feet wide. A series of ports, round on top, extended straight down to the base of the dome. Atop the dome was a smaller structure, above which was an antenna-like superstructure topped with a small sphere.The color of the body of the UFO was dull aluminum; the second-story dome was entirely vented, in appearance somewhat similar to a radiator grill. The ports, six or seven in number and encircling the lower dome, were slightly indented and white in color, giving the appearance of frosted glass.No light shone through.


Case Directory

NICAP - New Look Report


Case #4

October 24th, 1968, Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota






They saw it hovering close to the ground. It was described as at least 200-feet in diameter, hundreds of feet long, glowing yellow, with a metallic cylinder that was attached.

The crew of the B52 and sixteen ground witnesses attested that they saw a UFO that night. Blue Book came to the astonishing conclusion that what they actually saw were nothing more than stars


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Case #5

October 20, 2006, Highland, Illinois


On October 23, 2006, the investigator received a phone call from a southern Illinois resident who reported that he and his wife witnessed an unidentified flying object at 4:50am on Friday, October 20, 2006. At one point, the object, a distinct triangle, emerged over the roof of their house and directly over their heads. The object was estimated to be 120 feet altitude.
ufoevidence.org...
Witness Sketch of October 20, 2006 UFO, Bottom View, (Inverted, enhanced)
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Witness Sketch of October 20, 2006 UFO, Rear View (Inverted, enhanced)
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Sighting Location Photograph, composited with witness rendering of object as it passed directly over his home approximately 120 feet altitude. (Position and size of UFO estimated by witness, November 22, 2006.)


Case #6
July 15, 1995, Harwinton, CT


The witnesses (husband and wife) were driving back from fishing at a quarry in Harwinton when they observed a large metallic disk about 500 feet in diameter at an altitude of about 200 feet, from a distance of about a half mile, during daytime. The object was traveling 65-70 mph, and it passed smoothly over the road on a course approximately perpendicular to the road.
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Computer simulation based on witness sketch - the simulation uses the estimated size, altitude, and distance. (credit: MUFON CT / Mark Cashman)
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Sketch by the husband. This profile is considered by the investigators to be the definitive shape of the object. (credit: MUFON CT / Mark Cashman)
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Left: The husband's drawing on the photograph of the site. Right: the wife's drawing. (credit: MUFON CT / Mark Cashman)



More cases will be added and feel free to share your own thoughts or add cases to the list.

Sources:

UFOs: Close Range Sightings
UFO Evidence
NICAP UFO Chronologies
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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:55 AM
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October 24th, 1968, Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota


Is this a real photo? Or just a representation?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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How about the Coyne incident?
Four US Army men in Huey helicopter trailed by light, which approaches on collision course. They put helicopter into dive, but metallic cigar UFO continues to approach and hovers right in front of windscreen. It swings a green beam of light onto helicopter which apparently "pulls" helicopter several hundred feet up from its steep dive towards the ground...






About 11:00 p.m. near Mansfield, Healey saw a red light off to the left(west) heading south. Three or four minutes later, Yanacek noticed a single steady red light on the eastern horizon, and reported it to Coyne. About 30 seconds later, Yanacek announced that the light appeared to be converging on the helicopter, and they all watched it warily.
As the light continued its approach, Coyne grabbed the controls from Jezzi and began a powered descent of approximately 500 feet per minute. He made radio contact with Mansfield approach control, requesting information on possible jet traffic. After Mansfield acknowledged their transmission, radio contact was lost on both UHF and VHF.
The red light appeared to be on a collision course, approaching at a speed estimated to be more than 600 knots. Coyne increased the rate of descent to 2,000 feet per minute until they reached about 1,700 feet, about 600 feet above the tree tops. With the unknown object about to ram them, the crewmen feared for their lives. Just as a collision appeared imminent, the light suddenly stopped and hovered above and in front of the helicopter. They saw a cigar-shaped, gray metallic appearing, domed object whose apparent size filled the entire windshield.

What Captain Coyne saw through the helicopter windshield



The object appeared solid, blotting out the stars behind it. It had a red light at the nose, a white light at the tail, and a distinctive green beam emanating from the lower part of the otherwise featureless "fuselage." The green beam swung up over the helicopter nose, through the windshield, and into the upper tinted window panels. The cockpit was bathed in intense green light. No noise or turbulence was noted. After a few seconds, the object accelerated and moved off to the west. Coyne and Healey reported that it then made a distinct 45 degree turn to the right, heading toward Lake Erie. While the object was still visible, Jezzi and Coyne both noted that the altimeter read 3,500 feet with a rate of climb of 1,000 feet per minute. Yet the collective (steering mechanism) was still in the full-down position set during the descent.
As Coyne cautiously raised the collective, the helicopter continued climbing, as would be expected.
At an indicated altitude of 3,800 feet Coyne finally felt that he had regained positive control.
Then they felt a slight "bump." He descended to the previously assigned cruise altitude of 2,500 feet and made radio contact with Akron/Canton, which now was easily achieved. The remainder of the flight to Cleveland was routine.


Drawing of the object made under Captain Coyne and Sergeant Yanacsek direction

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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 06:57 AM
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Already explained from this thread by k12 mate, sequence taken from animation.


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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by CaptainBeno



October 24th, 1968, Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota


Is this a real photo? Or just a representation?


It's a representation of what the co-pilot claims he (and only he) saw. It's important to note that he came out with this information some 30 years after the event.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 07:49 AM
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S&F for effort and presentation!



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by thesearchfortruth
Far from the “vague lights in the sky” stereotype so commonly used by UFO debunkers, UFO sighting reports often detail close range encounters with very solid machine-like craft. Mechanical objects displaying true mastery of flight; able to hover, accelerate instantly to extreme speeds, and evade Air Force interceptor jets with ease. The following six UFO cases represent a small portion of such reports, proving at least in my own mind that the true unexplained UFO phenomenon is surely artificial, whether ET or otherwise....


This is a crucial point that cannot be made often enough. So nice thread!

The scoffers of course will continue to scoff, even while they could otherwise be actually reading and learning, so they miss points such as this.

Many people don't realize that, besides comprising many of the ~700 Blue Book official unknowns, those UFO reports involving actual 'craft' were focused on by the Colorado Project / Condon Report itself. And here is how Stanford astrophysicist Dr. Peter Sturrock classified the scientists' conclusions re: the Condon Report cases:

-- "No event" - 1 case
-- "Inconsistent data, possible hoaxes, or otherwise of no probative value" - 17 cases
-- "Identified (from 'conclusively' to 'inconclusively')" - 25 cases
-- "Delusions" - 2 cases
-- "Not appraised due to evasion by Air Force" - 1 case
-- "Not identified" - 14 cases
-- "Possible UFOs" - 2 cases
-- "Probable UFOs" - 2 cases


What's above, and the Report itself for those who care to read it and confirm, speak quite strongly against the standard skeptic claims that with UFOs we're dealing with just lights in the sky, psychological phenomena and hoaxes.

Note that "Possible UFO" and "Probable UFO" refer to those cases which are basically 'unexplainable' due to one or more characteristics of the craft. (It's clear from the context that the investigating scientists were not using Dr. Condon's suggested definition of UFO. Also, if it were otherwise, there'd be no need for a "Not identified" category.)



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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You can be pretty sure that anyone who attempts to dismiss the phenomenon as "lights in the sky" hasn't bothered to try to learn anything about the subject. The most interesting Close Encounter cases cannot be characterized as lights in the sky any more than a tractor trailer driving by at 100 yards distance can be reasonably described as "lights on the ground".

Here's another case that I feel indicates an actual sighting of an artificial, controlled object that cannot be identified and which displayed characteristics that are unlike that of man-made aircraft.




On February 4, 1968, from approximately 7:20 to 7:25 P.M., about two hundred residents of Redlands, California, either saw or heard what was apparently the same huge, low-flying, disk-shaped object as it passed overhead. The object apparently came down just west of Columbia Street and north of Colton Avenue, then proceeded slowly in a northwestern direction for about a mile or less, at an altitude of about 300 feet. Coming to a stop, it hovered briefly, jerked forward, hovered again, then shot straight up with a burst of speed. (Total time of the sighting must have been less than five minutes).



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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Here is another case from 1967.


Odessa, Delaware, February 9, 1967

At about 8:45 p.m. on February 9, 1967, Mr. and Mrs. Donald Guseman of Middletown, Delaware, were driving south on U.S. 13 toward Odessa. They had just crossed a bridge over a canal when Mr. Guseman saw two lights near the road ahead and to their left. The left light was green and the one on the right red. Suddenly two bright white lights came on between the colored ones. Thinking they were landing lights, Guseman said to his wife, "Look at the crazy plane trying to land!"

As the couple drew nearer, they could see the lights were stationary and attached to a large and unfamiliar object. Only the white lights were visible as they came up opposite to the object, across the highway from them. It sat motionless just over the trees approximately 200 feet from them at an altitude of about 70 or 80 feet.

Mr. Guseman rolled down his left window and he and his wife studied the object more closely. It was disc-shaped with a kind of cupola under the main body. Its width was estimated at about 50 feet and its height at about 20 feet at the thickest point. Except for the top, the object was clearly visible, a dark gray silhouette against the lighter sky. The surface was smooth and the bright white lights appeared to be searchlights affixed to the front end. The beams of these lights were wider at the ends than at the source and only the source of the closer beam was visible, the other being hidden by the body of the object.




The rather squared cupola, or "gondola," contained a horizontal row of windows which gave forth a faint soft light, steady and uninterrupted by any forms or movement. The light was described as "yellowish" by Mr. Guseman, "pinkish" by his wife. On the bottom of this gondola, in the center, were three red lights which shone with an even intensity.


For about two minutes the couple watched the object as it hovered motionless. Several cars and trucks passed on the high-way, but none slowed down or appeared to take notice. Then suddenly the two forward beams of light began to swing upward until they were pointed at a 45-degree angle from horizontal, shining upwards and out into the night sky. As soon as they reached this new position, the object began moving in a forward direction toward the north, and to the left of the witnesses. As it moved, the Gusemans heard a soft hum or buzz, similar to the sound of an electric motor. The UFO proceeded in a slow, straight trajectory at an even altitude and as it changed its angle of perspective relative to the viewers' position, it presented the same circular, disc-shape with the undercarriage and windows below. After moving approximately two or three hundred feet to the north over the trees, the UFO seemed literally to disappear. They assumed it had dropped down into a field beyond the tree-line, but when they drove near the field to check further they saw nothing; nor could they find any evidence on the ground where the UFO had hovered when they searched it with a flashlight.

Guseman, 29 at the time of the sighting, is president of the Delmarva Contracting Company, Middletown; his wife is a business administrator in Wilmington Memorial Hospital. Their sighting was investigated by NICAP staff members Stuart Nixon and Isabel Davis and they were later questioned further at NICAP headquarters by Dr. James E. McDonald. The witnesses were articulate, unemotional and cooperative in both their interviews.


And one more report describing "portholes" from 1966.


Eastern Massachusetts, April 18-20, 1966

In one of the recurring ironies of the UFO controversy, the March 1966 Michigan "swamp gas" sightings received all the publicity while similar localized waves elsewhere remained all but unknown. Such a concentration of close-range sightings occurred in eastern Massachusetts a month after the "swamp gas" reports.

A summary report for the month, prepared by Massachusetts NICAP Subcommittee Chairman Raymond Fowler, logs 18 sightings between April 11 and 23 along the eastern Massachusetts shore from Danvers, north of Boston, to Attleboro, near the Connecticut border. The large majority of sightings occurred over city residential areas, and the predominant shape of the reported objects was oval. Virtually all had body lights; several gave off high-pitched humming noises.

On two consecutive nights, April 18/19 and 19/20, there were at least 6 reports. About midnight on the 18th, Mr. and Mrs. George May of Sharon were arriving home when they saw an egg-shaped object descend and hover about 500 feet above an open field adjoining their property. At each end of the UFO was a small red light. A band of yellow light across the length of the object gave the impression of windows. After about ten minutes, the UFO rose slowly in an upward slant, then accelerated and rapidly disappeared.

On the evening of the 19th, a group of people gathered at the May home in hopes of seeing the UFO sighted the night before. About 11:45 p.m. some blinking, color-changing lights were noted in the northeast. Mrs. May called the Sharon police, and two officers were dispatched to the scene. About midnight, the two officers were relieved by a new shift, Sgt. Bernard Coffey and Officer Frederick Jones. Nothing of consequence transpired for the few minutes that the first officers were present, except the sightings of distant lights in the sky. Sgt. Coffey's report of what followed:

"About 12:10 a.m. . . . Officer Jones and myself watched these distant lights with the Mays. One of these objects was in a northwesterly direction, similar to a star, only brighter. It appeared to be rotating and changing colors from red to white to green. There were two other objects of the same description in a southwesterly direction. While we were observing these distant lights, Mrs. May said `here it comes,' or `there it is,' and we all looked in an easterly direction. The object appeared to be a falling star at a great distance, only three times the size of a star, and brighter. Within a matter of two or three seconds the object appeared over the tree line on the easterly side of the field in front of the Mays' house about 200-300 yards away from us and approximately 500 feet up. When it was hovering over the tree line it appeared as a very bright, large mass of white light with a ballish [round] appearance. It made no noise whatsoever and did not cast any light onto the tree line or ground below.



"The object stopped and hovered over the tree line for approximately two or three minutes. While it hovered a plane passed over in a northerly direction. When the plane moved off the object started to move across the field in front of us in a southwesterly direction. As the object passed in front of us I viewed a red light in front and a red light to the rear that remained on (not flashing) and a wide section of white light extending from red light to red light and appeared to be inside lights. I concentrated on trying to see inside of the object for any figures or movements but failed to detect any signs of life or figures. I feel as if I did see inside the object. The object disappeared as it went over the tree line in a southwesterly direction."

Also on the early morning of the 20th, Mr. David Clapp of Sharon was driving in a northeast direction about a mile from the May home. About 12:15 a.m. he saw a very bright light headed south at a height of 500 to 700 feet. He stopped his car, rolled down the window, and saw the UFO abruptly reverse direction. The light moved rapidly north and disappeared as if into clouds. About the same time, a Sharon woman (name and report on file) was a passenger in a car going east southeast at a position less than a mile from the May home. She saw a bright white light with smaller red lights at each end moving slowly southward at an estimated altitude of 800 to 1000 feet, below some scattered clouds. The light disappeared upwards as if into the clouds.

Earlier in the evening of the 19th, Mrs. Peggy Kudla in Bellingham, several miles west southwest of Sharon, and another witness, saw a narrow oval or cigar-shaped object of very large apparent size, at first tipped at an angle. At each end was a bright red light, steady at first but blinking later as the UFO moved away. As it began moving, it tilted to a level position. The time was about 10:00 p.m. (EST). The UFO hovered, moved up and down and back and forth over a small area. It was silent while hovering, but gave off a high-pitched hissing sound when it moved. The UFO appeared to be at an altitude of about 200 feet and at its closest point was estimated to be about 300 feet away.


Mr. Fowler's report on the events of April 19 adds: "On this same night at 8 p.m. an oval object giving off a `piercing humming sound' was seen passing over Stoughton, 20 miles west of Bellingham [near Sharon]. It was heading west, toward Bellingham. At 8:11 p.m. two oval objects with red and green lights were sighted near Hartford, Connecticut, hovering over the Rocky Hill Veteran's Home and Hospital, according to a report received by the Rocky Hill police. At 11:45 p.m. at Quincy, Mass., about 30 miles northeast of Bellingham, there were sightings of disc-shaped objects with red lights hovering and then `swinging like a pendulum'. The Bellingham sighting is typical of the many reports received by the NICAP-Massachusetts Subcommittee."

Since a local advertising plane had often touched off UFO reports, Mr. Fowler checked and learned that the plane did not fly at all on the night of April 19.


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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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More reports with witness sketches:



February 16, 1967; Nr. Kingman, Arizona 11:43 p.m.; UFO illuminated ground,
joined two other objects as it flew away. three red and one green body lights


February 22, 1966; So. Kingston, N.H. 9:05 p.m.; UFO maneuvered
for 35 minutes; six witnesses; "falling leaf" motion noted.


July 26, 1965; Hartshorne, Oklahoma 7 p.m.; UFO hovered 4-5
minutes just above tree line in front of one tall tree, then "whisked away."
Upper part silver, lower gray-red; spots like indentations.


October 14, 1966; Nr. Newton, Illinois 6:45 p.m.; Yellow-orange UFO,
blue line around center, red lights just under rim. Object illuminated ground,
affected TV, other typical features.


January 15, 1967; No. Granby, Conn., at about 5:45 p.m.; UFO
emitted white shafts of light from "portholes."


February 15, 1967; Hollywood Bottom, Texas 10:15 p.m.; Family
observed UFO with body lights, haze around body, "vibrating" noise.
Blue-green light from dome, red-orange from front, bright white trail.



March 19, 1966; Big Rapids, Michigan 5:20 a.m.; UFO surrounded
by bluish-white haze. Lights on bottom flicked on and off one at a time. Very
similar object sighted 45 miles away at Grand Rapids March 17.



April 22, 1967; Tulsa, Oklahoma 8:10 p.m.; UFO sighted by several
witnesses; lights or "ports" appeared to rotate.



July 19, 1965; Vaucluse, Australia 5:30 p.m.; UFO observed taking
off from beach; sound of rushing air; dogs barked loudly.

NICAP



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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UFOs are mechanical ships from Earth, people made them and fly them.

I see you even have the 'port holes' around the sides.
Those are the propulsion units that enable horizontal flight at any angle as you can
see they surround the ship enabling instantaneous directional flight.

My father made a facsimile propulsion unit right before my eyes in the basement
and held it up to show me before I was in kindergarten. That was not to long after
I asked who invented the radio and he said Tesla. Then he said Tesla made wireless
lighting and let me have two air core inductors used in 1891 by Tesla for wireless
lighting. Then came the propulsion unit that he said would take in power from the
environment even in the basement. Yeah I had a lot to tell those kids but never told.
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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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www.google.com...
some of the web links have questionable security
but
click on the images ufoevidence.org has some of the images.

searching some of these ufo pages might cause your computer to regret going there

All sightings are given the once over by officials of the oil companies to dilute the
information and distort the release of any published information. Take it from people in
that situation.


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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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UFOs are mechanical ships from Earth, people made them and fly them.


So how would you explain the reports of alien (non-human) entities around/inside UFOs? How would you explain abductions? How would you explain the testimony of high ranking people in the government alleging that UFOs are indeed extraterrestrial and that there has been a cover up?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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UFOs are mechanical ships from Earth, people made them and fly them.


So how would you explain the reports of alien (non-human) entities around/inside UFOs? How would you explain abductions? How would you explain the testimony of high ranking people in the government alleging that UFOs are indeed extraterrestrial and that there has been a cover up?


There is only a one word explanation for aliens: payoff
or else its pressure to change the story and people cave in.
You don't know the cavers.
The payoff might be alien story telling writers from oil companies.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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I'm surprised that there's no mention of the Cash-Landrum case.




On the evening of December 29, 1980, Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum and Colby Landrum (Vickie's seven-year-old grandson) were driving home to Dayton, Texas in Cash's Oldsmobile Cutlass after dining out. At about 9.00 p.m., while driving on an isolated two-lane road in dense woods, the witnesses said they observed a light above some trees. They initially thought the light was an airplane approaching Houston Intercontinental Airport (about 35 miles away) and gave it little notice. A few minutes later on the winding roads, the witnesses saw what they believed to be the same light as before, but it was now much closer and very bright. The light, they claimed, came from a huge diamond-shaped object, which hovered at about treetop level. The object's base was expelling flame and emitting significant heat.


Cash-Landrum incident (Wikipedia)




The object then moved to a point higher in the sky. As it ascended over the treetops, the witnesses claimed that a group of helicopters approached the object and surrounded it in tight formation. Cash and Landrum counted 23 helicopters, and later identified some of them as tandem-rotor CH-47 Chinooks used by military forces worldwide.


To me - this incident is the most compelling that I've read which indicates that some of these craft are very terrestrial
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posted on Sep, 22 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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Under Chapter IV Bill Lyne goes in to the Cash-Landrum case.


www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

I think he identifies how misinformation is given out.
Basically officially the victims of the unofficial Tesla aircraft of the Illuminati can't be
helped without signing off she saw aliens.
Thats how unofficially things work.




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