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posted on Sep, 3 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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We Americans as a people are nonconformists by nature, contrarians even. The fact everyone else is doing it makes us think " why should we? We are already doing better than most without it" so changing to suit others just won't do, we are a very rambunctious bunch that just love to piss others off with our feet inchs LBS (pounds) and miles.

Besides go big or stay at home, who wants to measure somthing in itty bitty kilometers, when we could use big ass miles?




posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by freemarketsocialist
 


We Americans as a people are nonconformists by nature, contrarians even. The fact everyone else is doing it makes us think " why should we? We are already doing better than most without it" so changing to suit others just won't do, we are a very rambunctious bunch that just love to piss others off with our feet inchs LBS (pounds) and miles.

Besides go big or stay at home, who wants to measure somthing in itty bitty kilometers, when we could use big ass miles?


I must admit, I like a old speedo that has mph.

I also love the word contrarians.

I really think it would be easier if we all used the same units though.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:04 AM
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Assume we pay more for the substance that fuels vehicles, henceforth known as "STFV." We will also have to pay more for the products moved by STFV. Which is, of course, nearly everything. Since we are now, under this scenario, paying more for everything, and our families have only a limited budget, what do we spend less on, Foster's? DVDs of Downton Abbey?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:08 AM
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I would cut back on the Fosters.

We dont even drink that crap. We just sell it to Americans.

Drink Tooheys or VB.
Much better than that Budweiser stuff.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Or the elite who control everything could piss off and allow us to use one of MANY forms of free unlimited energy....

Go ask MR Rockefeller if its ok that we aren't bound by his global oil monopoly... See how that turns out....

Something indeed needs to be done. I'm not so sure Americans paying more for gas is the solution :/

More like intelligent global revolution against all these dynastic families etc. And a global conciousness shift. That might have more of an effect than Americans paying more for gas....
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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by freemarketsocialist

Mobil. Shell, BP and Chevron have all our money.
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Not really. In some cases governments make as much per gallon (taxes) as the oil companies do. They don't like this to be common knowledge, though.

Oil companies take HUGE risks and they have many, many failures. Then when they succeed, they often succeed big. It's why the business is so exciting - it's big or it's nothing. There's not much in-between.

We are supported by this industry, and I'm very much into environmentalism. I know it's easy to look on the outside and just see huge profits, but there's more to it than that. It's a vast industry. The public & governments should always be pressuring these companies to be cleaner and more responsible - but these companies drive the economy and massive amounts of environmental research, too.

I've approached them on occasion for large amounts of money for schools & other charitable events - and have never been turned down. Oil & gas companies predominantly support my childrens' school (it is an overseas private school, our only option here).

When you can't get rid of the "devil" make him work for you.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by Schkeptick

Originally posted by freemarketsocialist

Mobil. Shell, BP and Chevron have all our money.
edit on 3-9-2012 by freemarketsocialist because: (no reason given)


Not really. In some cases governments make as much per gallon (taxes) as the oil companies do. They don't like this to be common knowledge, though.

Oil companies take HUGE risks and they have many, many failures. Then when they succeed, they often succeed big. It's why the business is so exciting - it's big or it's nothing. There's not much in-between.

We are supported by this industry, and I'm very much into environmentalism. I know it's easy to look on the outside and just see huge profits, but there's more to it than that. It's a vast industry. The public & governments should always be pressuring these companies to be cleaner and more responsible - but these companies drive the economy and massive amounts of environmental research, too.

I've approached them on occasion for large amounts of money for schools & other charitable events - and have never been turned down. Oil & gas companies predominantly support my childrens' school (it is an overseas private school, our only option here).

When you can't get rid of the "devil" make him work for you.


Ha!

That is the craziest thing I have ever read in my life.

The world has no hope.

We should all kill ourselves.
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posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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Maybe if British Petroleum (BP) wasn't drilling for oil off the coast of the USA spilling millions of barrels into to Gulf.

How many oil rigs are there drilling for oil off the coast of Europe?



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by MagicWand67
Maybe if British Petroleum (BP) wasn't drilling for oil off the coast of the USA spilling millions of barrels into to Gulf.

How many oil rigs are there drilling for oil off the coast of Europe?


Im not from Europe.

All oil must be purchased in US Dollars.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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Australia is about 60-70% efficient in supplying it's own fuel.

Almost 50% of what you pay in fuel are various taxes. You're the one from Australia, look it up for yourself.

You pay out the rear because of your OWN government, not because of Americans.


Australia also has an over-inflated housing market that is going to take a huge fall soon. Watch.

Take your complaints to your representatives in government, not to Americans who can only sympathize with your dilemma. The US and buying oil in USD has very little to do with the price you pay at the pump.

Also, you need to take the exchange rate into consideration.



Hope this leads you down the right path.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPS



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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Always with the blaming Americans for something. . . As stated numerous times already, you're complaining to the wrong people. Take it to your government. Also as before, why wish something worse on others when you should be focusing for something better for yourself. Your logic seems very ill thought out, if there's even any thought behind your ranting.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Perhaps it's because we are an industrialized nation, and many of the countries you are comparing the prices to are not industrialized, or not to the degree that we are. Prices on practically everything should fall lower in a prosperous industrialized nation, according to economic principle.

It's the same way clean water can cost a lot more in many of those countries than it costs the US.

Therefore, I believe your argument is invalid.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by psuxavier
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Perhaps it's because we are an industrialized nation, and many of the countries you are comparing the prices to are not industrialized, or not to the degree that we are. Prices on practically everything should fall lower in a prosperous industrialized nation, according to economic principle.

It's the same way clean water can cost a lot more in many of those countries than it costs the US.

Therefore, I believe your argument is invalid.


You're whole post was invalid. You do know it was the red bits and not the greens which cost more, right?
This whole thread is invalid in fact. We know where this is going, just look at the Team America comment above about back to back work war crap, don't even go there . . .

OP the fact is this, in Europe we get taxed through he #ing nose for everything, especially fuel. America just doesn't get taxed on fuel so therefore they don't pay as much. You asking America to pay more would just line the pockets of the people this forum oppose



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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Well, I don't know about anyone else here, but I kind of figure that the reason it cost less in my area is because the part of the country I live in is inundated with refineries. I couldn't even begin to count how many there are within a hundred square miles. Also there are innumerous oil drilling rigs on land and in the Gulf- all around me.

But don't be a hater just because I pay less for "petrol". You'll probably outlive most of us around here- you know, with all the chemicals killing us and all.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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I noticed about three porkies by various American posters like diesel is cheaper than petrol in the u.k.,not here it isn't.
another said we have a socialist government in the u.k.,lies try corporate whore government.
another was along the lines of you don't drill for oil off of Europe.more bull,aberdeen is Europe's oil capital.
I sometimes think some Americans live in a bubble unable to see out of it.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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I was just listening to a talk show this morninigtalking about, how the Germans were working on creating synthetic Oil during WW2, they had it pretty much figured out, until they lost and Opertion paperclip, snatched them all up, and silenced that for good. They thought that oil was naturally produced by Earth, and not by Fossils, I think they call it abiotic fuel. I dont know, anyway, I kinda think they were right. Hell the Saudis really cant give an exact measurement of how much oil they have left, because it comes up from deep under fractures in the Earths crust supposedly. America is supposed to be sitting on an enormous amount of untapped oil. Its like diamonds, they are really not that unique or rare, just the marketing is kept as a monopoly, to drive prices sky high, just like oil



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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Pay me more money and I'll pay more for gas. Hell, pay me even more money and I'll buy a car that gets 10mpg, drive it like a madman, and give more tax money to the elite.

2012 Camaro with a Supercharger. I'll put it on a credit card..... yeah...



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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I'd agree with that.



posted on Sep, 4 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by freemarketsocialist
All oil must be purchased in US Dollars.


And one only has to look at Libya to see where trying to do oil deals in any other currency gets you.






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